Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?

[IMDAZED]

show me where hopkins called joppy out before the tournament...

Where? He called for unification many times. If my youtube wasn't blocked at the office, I'd gladly search for you. If he was avoiding Joppy, why would he even fight in the tourney?

[IMDAZED]

he was avoided at middleweight....lol....because everybody down there knew he was sweating himself down from 175....he was 15x stronger than anybody in the division...i don't blame them for trying to shut nard out...i doubt if anybody at 168 or 175 was that frightened of him...hell ask calzaghe how scared he was of nard at 168 in 2001...he had a signed fight with him that disappeared...ask jones how scared he was of nard at 175...

How do you know this? What do you base this on?

[djtmal]

How do you know this? What do you base this on?

his first bout @ 175

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his first bout @ 175

What about it?

[Adamantium]

How do you know this? What do you base this on?

Wasnt his pro debut at lhw? And after that he had another 20 fights at smw, before moving down again to mw.

[djtmal]

Where? He called for unification many times. If my youtube wasn't blocked at the office, I'd gladly search for you. If he was avoiding Joppy, why would he even fight in the tourney?

my question is, why would he bother with joppy after tito already flattened him...he should have moved up to his original weight

[Nuurzhaelan]

He's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!

The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.

His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?

This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.

Finally. Someone who sees what I see.

[djtmal]

Wasnt his pro debut at lhw? And after that he had another 20 fights at smw, before moving down again to mw.

trust me they know...this is when the excuses and the selective amnesia sets in with hopkins fans...

[IMDAZED]

Wasnt his pro debut at lhw? And after that he had another 20 fights at smw, before moving down again to mw.

Hopkins first fight was at 177, a weigh far too large for him. His subsequent bouts were in the 161-163 range, like most middleweight prospects. It wasn't until he got with Bouie Fischer and began training in earnest that he settled in the 158-160 range.

To say that he struggled to make weight would require proof. He weighed around 158 for most of his fights (157 for Tito, 156 for Oscar even) and was always in fantastic condition, particularly in the latter rounds. Very "un-typical" of a fighter who strained to make weight.

[djtmal]

What about it?

you don't think king knew nard was a scaled down lightheavy