Max Kellerman All Time P4P List

[elfag]

Cotto and Hatton were prime when Manny fought them, and he fought the same shopworn versions of Oscar and Shane than Floyd did

He showed how much better he was than Floyd by having Floyd avoid fighting him when he was at his peak

Floyd gets about 20% credit for running and hugging all night vs a shopworn Manny

Look everything you said is wrong but to claim DLH was the same in both fights is particularly egregious

[djtmal]

Look everything you said is wrong but to claim DLH was the same in both fights is particularly egregious

Prime or not prime is all that matters everything else is excuses.

Manny beat the same shopworn version of Oscar that Floyd did

[hugh grant]

I didn’t misunderstand you in any way.

He lost more as well.

since when is having the same number of fights a criteria to rank boxers? You said quality not quantity.

Many of manny’s first 35 fights are no name bums.

You really want Floyd to fight the guys from 130 and below that Manny did?

Even a ball smoker like you realizes Floyd hurts 98% of them just because of size.

Floyd never beat anyone Pac lost to so floyds got nothing to boast about. All common big oppenents Pac beat more dominant than Floyd.
Floyd hasnt got as many wins against differing opponents that Pac has. Sure Floyd dont need to prove he can beat every win Pac has in the bag. But surely Floyd can fight toughest available if at all possible and fight Spence, thurman, bradley, bud. Floyd didnt want to do that so what does floyd want to do? What was he in the sport for? He didnt want to fight the people that people wanted him to fight. So why would anyone give Floyd credit?
Sure Floyd should get some credit but does it have to be what you want? He didnt give people what they want? So why give floyd what he wants?

[QueensburyRules]

I didn’t misunderstand you in any way.

He lost more as well.

since when is having the same number of fights a criteria to rank boxers? You said quality not quantity.

Many of manny’s first 35 fights are no name bums.

You really want Floyd to fight the guys from 130 and below that Manny did?

Even a ball smoker like you realizes Floyd hurts 98% of them just because of size.

- - Yo, big dum, they both appeared in Ring Ratings at the same time.

U still using the same brand of Big Boys U used back then?

[djtmal]

Floyd is an ATG boxer that didn’t lose.

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All time great fighters that lost, that rank higher than Floyd

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd never beat anyone Pac lost to so floyds got nothing to boast about. All common big oppenents Pac beat more dominant than Floyd.
Floyd hasnt got as many wins against differing opponents that Pac has. Sure Floyd dont need to prove he can beat every win Pac has in the bag. But surely Floyd can fight toughest available if at all possible and fight Spence, thurman, bradley, bud. Floyd didnt want to do that so what does floyd want to do? What was he in the sport for? He didnt want to fight the people that people wanted him to fight. So why would anyone give Floyd credit?
Sure Floyd should get some credit but does it have to be what you want? He didnt give people what they want? So why give floyd what he wants?

Huh? He beat JMM and he beat Manny.

Also after Floyd, other than Cotto.

Manny didn’t fight Spence or Crawford. He fought Thurman after he looked bad. Bradley ducked Floyd and signed with TR because Manny was easier and Bob had the fake trilogy set up.

Floyd fought Canelo. Tougher to beat than anyone Manny fought, other than Floyd.

He did fight everyone the people wanted him to. You included. That is why you deleted the post after he beat every boxer you said he had to in order to be an ATG. Did you forget this?

We aren’t talking about my credit. The issue you have is Floyd finishing 2nd to Manny in every poll posted in terms of best boxer of 21st century.

Max has a different opinion which imo is an outlier because polls have multiple voters.

Clearly he did give people what they wanted because his fights were sold out, he sold the most ppv’s. The ppv’s were at a higher price point than his contemporaries.

Are you sure you’re ok?

[hugh grant]

Huh? He beat JMM.

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You are so predictable, why did I know you was going to try correct me and say jmm? I was hoping you had a bit of dignity to not.mention jm M as pac has 3 wins over jm M if not scorecard error, and floyd bloated jm M up whilst cheating scsles?
But that's asking too much of you isn't it, Floyd's body of work isn't enough what choice did you have, you was cornered?

[The Big Dunn]

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All time great fighters that lost, that rank higher than Floyd

I don’t recall posting Floyd was the best ATG or that his not losing made him better than these men.

You’re having your usual ESL reading issues so I am not going to bother with you.

[The Big Dunn]

You are so predictable, why did I know you was going to try correct me and say jmm? I was hoping you had a bit of dignity to not.mention jm M as pac has 3 wins over jm M if not scorecard error, and floyd bloated jm M up whilst cheating scsles?
But that's asking too much of you isn't it, Floyd's body of work isn't enough what choice did you have, you was cornered?

You made a false statement. That is why predictably I corrected you. Had someone posted Manny lost to Thurman you’d have corrected them. Duh!

Manny has 2 wins, 1 ko loss, and 1 draw with JMM. Not 3 wins. Please make accurate statements.

You’re just blabbering because everything I posted, including the part about him beating everyone you asked and then deleted the post when he did, is true.

That is why you didn’t quote the whole post.

You’re a bigger coward than Manny was.

[IronDanHamza]

Cotto and Hatton were prime when Manny fought them, and he fought the same shopworn versions of Oscar and Shane than Floyd did

He showed how much better he was than Floyd by having Floyd avoid fighting him when he was at his peak

Floyd gets about 20% credit for running and hugging all night vs a shopworn Manny

How can that be when both were stopped before they fought Pacquaio? You said anyone who's stopped isn't in their prime.

Cotto especially was raked through the coals and had half of his face hanging off.