Canelo is not an all time great fighter

[IronDanHamza]

oh so Manny beat prime Thurman

You said that he can't be passed his prime because he was undefeated.

Now you're saying an undefeated Golovkin was past his prime.

Which one is it?

[DeeMoney]

This discussion, and many like it, have gone round and round without anyone establishing parameters; most importantly- WHERE IS THE DEMARCATION LINE FOR ATG?

Some people can rank Canelo exactly the same, yet one has that ranking as being ATG while the other doesnt. They can bicker back and forth without realizing they are feeling the same way about a fighter.

Does ATG have to fall within a certain number on your all time P4P list? Does it have to be within a certain rank within a weight class? Do you get it by being within a certain rank in a given era (which is odd because defining eras ends up being arbitrary ayhow)?

Define ATG, and then the discussion moves a lot more smoothly.

[IronDanHamza]

This discussion, and many like it, have gone round and round without anyone establishing parameters; most importantly- WHERE IS THE DEMARCATION LINE FOR ATG?

Some people can rank Canelo exactly the same, yet one has that ranking as being ATG while the other doesnt. They can bicker back and forth without realizing they are feeling the same way about a fighter.

Does ATG have to fall within a certain number on your all time P4P list? Does it have to be within a certain rank within a weight class? Do you get it by being within a certain rank in a given era (which is odd because defining eras ends up being arbitrary ayhow)?

Define ATG, and then the discussion moves a lot more smoothly.

The thread starter genuinely couldn't define the word define.