The Ring Magazine Top 10 fighters of the 21st Century

[Haka]

Kind of significant though, isn't it? The Ring Magazine.

You've heard of it, right? The Ring...Magazine?

It's only 100+ years old and the most known and historical magazine in Boxing and the same magazine that has provided the rankings for essentially the entirety of the time since professional boxing was birthed.

It is at best, news worthy. Not exactly Dave from Stokes list, is it?

Furthermore you could always just not post in the thread, that's an option, if you didn't know. Sometimes I'm not entirely sure if you know that's an option you have.

What person is hiding behind the Ring Magazine label ? Who is the editorial manager and what makes this person credible. You can declare it to be an objective list yet who is doing the declaring ?

[Haka]

I agree with Loma being in the top 10, got ducked in his prime, got denied rematches, losses were controversial and walked around 140lbs giving up 15lbs+ to a lot of opponents but chased greatness anyway which is rare.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Lomachenko:
9-3 vs world titlists, 0-2 in lineal championship fights

Teraji:
11-2 vs world titlists, 4-0 in lineal championship fights

Lomachenko lost both of his legitimate divisional crown fights.

So what, Cotto has a better record in lineal Middleweight title fights than Golovkin.

They’re empty statistics. Kenshiro is nowhere near top 10 of the past 25 years. He was barely top 10 of his own era during his prime.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Right so you'd agree that Carlos Baldomir is greater than anyone who never won a Lineal title?

In fact, go one further, Carlos Baldomir is greater than any fighter who never won a world title?

Let's just get your stance clear. Answers to both please.

Baldomir > Golovkin, Kovalev, Froch etc.

[IronDanHamza]

Baldomir > Golovkin, Kovalev, Froch etc.

Bless him, he's new to the sport and doesn't really get it, get's overly excited. I've explained this to him a few times but he doesn't drop it and then this moment here comes back around. I don't blame him that much, I remember I was the same when I had just discovered boxing. Plus he's gay so that feminine side comes out of him in these discussions.

To argue Carlos Baldomir has a better resume than Dillian Whyte is absurd. Anyone with one brain cell knows it if they aren't lying to themselves. Let alone the plethora of other fighters who never won a Lineal Title, or even won a world title at all. He knows that, that's why he's avoided answering it.

This is the same guy who considered Crawford's win over Ray Beltran as "elite" just for the simple fact it was for the Lineage even though anyone who has followed boxing for more than 5 minutes knows Ray Beltran is average at best and beating him is anything but elite.

He also deemed Danny Jacobs absolutely death defying murders run of Caleb Truax, Sergio Mora, Peter Quillen, Sergio Mora again as "special", I'm not joking, he really said that.

[IronDanHamza]

What person is hiding behind the Ring Magazine label ? Who is the editorial manager and what makes this person credible. You can declare it to be an objective list yet who is doing the declaring ?

Nobody said the list was objective, you stupid fuck.

It's a list that I'd assume a panel has come up with at The Ring as we're not a quarter of the way through the century.

[Coverdale]

Kind of significant though, isn't it? The Ring Magazine.

You've heard of it, right? The Ring...Magazine?

It's only 100+ years old and the most known and historical magazine in Boxing and the same magazine that has provided the rankings for essentially the entirety of the time since professional boxing was birthed.

It is at best, news worthy. Not exactly Dave from Stokes list, is it?

Furthermore you could always just not post in the thread, that's an option, if you didn't know. Sometimes I'm not entirely sure if you know that's an option you have.

It's not really the Ring Magazine anymore though, is it? I mean, they have at least resumed the print edition but they've been a website owned by a promoter for quite some time now.

Similar to how Boxing News going monthly effectively means it's not the same to me anymore. They're just legacy brands and not run with their original intent.

But perhaps you're right, another top ten list with Mayweather and Pacquiao at the top (precipitating fierce debate about the order of those two individuals) is super important.

[Haka]

Nobody said the list was objective, you stupid fuck.

It's a list that I'd assume a panel has come up with at The Ring as we're not a quarter of the way through the century.

Defending the credibilty of Ring Magazine without considering its representatives seems really smart.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Bless him, he's new to the sport and doesn't really get it, get's overly excited. I've explained this to him a few times but he doesn't drop it and then this moment here comes back around. I don't blame him that much, I remember I was the same when I had just discovered boxing. Plus he's gay so that feminine side comes out of him in these discussions.

To argue Carlos Baldomir has a better resume than Dillian Whyte is absurd. Anyone with one brain cell knows it if they aren't lying to themselves. Let alone the plethora of other fighters who never won a Lineal Title, or even won a world title at all. He knows that, that's why he's avoided answering it.

This is the same guy who considered Crawford's win over Ray Beltran as "elite" just for the simple fact it was for the Lineage even though anyone who has followed boxing for more than 5 minutes knows Ray Beltran is average at best and beating him is anything but elite.

He also deemed Danny Jacobs absolutely death defying murders run of Caleb Truax, Sergio Mora, Peter Quillen, Sergio Mora again as "special", I'm not joking, he really said that.

I don’t mind him tbf, there’s certainly worse posters on this board. He does make some good points from time to time.

He’s just so desperate to be contrasting and outlandish though. He loves inciting a debate or argument so he can post a guys resume and tell us they’re 5-0 in title fights- which is all readily available on boxrec I think.

He obviously gets some enjoyment out of it though. Good luck to him but there’s no way in hell Kenshiro is top 10 of the last 25 years.

[IronDanHamza]

It's not really the Ring Magazine anymore though, is it? I mean, they have at least resumed the print edition but they've been a website owned by a promoter for quite some time now.

Similar to how Boxing News going monthly effectively means it's not the same to me anymore. They're just legacy brands and not run with their original intent.

But perhaps you're right, another top ten list with Mayweather and Pacquiao at the top (precipitating fierce debate about the order of those two individuals) is super important.

Again, you do know that you have the option to not post in the thread? You're not obligated to.

I saw a Ring Magazine quarter of the century list, seemed somewhat significant and interesting, thought I'd post it, and it's actually had some good discussion for the most part.

Why are you upset about that? What exactly is your problem? Let's identify it so we can try and help.