The Ring Magazine Top 10 fighters of the 21st Century

[daggum]

I know you like to be edgy but just stop dude.

Kenshiro isn’t even top 10 now and was barely top 10 during his prime, never mind top 10 the last 25 years.

Loma equalled the record for the fastest ever World Champion in just 3 fights. Broke the record as the fastest 2 and 3 weight World Champion. Was ranked the #1 P4P fighter in the world for over a year. Plus is arguably the greatest amateur of all time including 2 Olympic Gold Medals.

Kenshiro being top 10 this century is utter f***ing madness.

thats because people didnt appreciate him or even know who he was. they put tank and broner on the p4p list so its more popularity based than anything. he also suffered a knockout loss and we know they prefer pristine but manufactured clean records more than battle tested guys.

teraji was/is great and he beat the lineal champ at 108 kyoguchi, yabuki who became #1 after teraji and is one of the best fighters in boxing right now, guevara was ranked 1 by ring, ganigan lopez ranked top 3, budler #2, canizales current #1, then he moved up and beat one of the top guys at 112 in akui. thats a ton of quality wins and i didnt even mention all his other top 10 wins if you want quantity too.

he definitely was one of the best fighters in boxing and you can make a case hes as good or better than loma. loma did get completely robbed against haney so if you factor that in i think its very close.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Since when did amateur boxing have anything at all to do with Ring's P4P list?

Hint: never

Teraji had a better pro career and he's still fighting.

Just discount all the other historical accomplishments.

Kenshiro has never even been top 5 on the Ring P4P list ever. He spent few months ranked like 8-10 in his ENTIRE CAREER.

Are you trying to suggest you’re right and EVERYONE else on the Ring Panel is wrong.

Absolutely laughable.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Because you don't watch the fights in Japan would be the only reason. He's built an easy Hall of Fame resume and is challenging for another title in a third division in two weeks.

HOF? Possibly. Top 10 of the last 25 years? Not a chance in hell.

[famicommander]

Just discount all the other historical accomplishments.

Kenshiro has never even been top 5 on the Ring P4P list ever. He spent few months ranked like 8-10 in his ENTIRE CAREER.

Are you trying to suggest you’re right and EVERYONE else on the Ring Panel is wrong.

Absolutely laughable.

Lomachenko:
9-3 vs world titlists, 0-2 in lineal championship fights

Teraji:
11-2 vs world titlists, 4-0 in lineal championship fights

Lomachenko lost both of his legitimate divisional crown fights.

[IronDanHamza]

Lomachenko:
9-3 vs world titlists, 0-2 in lineal championship fights

Teraji:
11-2 vs world titlists, 4-0 in lineal championship fights

Lomachenko lost both of his legitimate divisional crown fights.

That's just statistics, doesn't necessarily mean A is better than B.

This is the same kind of nonsense that had you laughably saying Carlos Baldomir has a better resume than Dillian Whyte for the simple fact he won a Lineal Title despite the fact it's glaring obvious that it's not true.

[famicommander]

That's just statistics, doesn't necessarily mean A is better than B.

This is the same kind of nonsense that had you laughably saying Carlos Baldomir has a better resume than Dillian Whyte for the simple fact he won a Lineal Title despite the fact it's glaring obvious that it's not true.

Winning something >>>>>>> never winning jack.

End of. Whyte couldn't even get a paper sanctioning body belt, let alone an actual world championship.

[IronDanHamza]

Winning something >>>>>>> never winning jack.

End of.

Right so you'd agree that Carlos Baldomir is greater than anyone who never won a Lineal title?

In fact, go one further, Carlos Baldomir is greater than any fighter who never won a world title?

Let's just get your stance clear. Answers to both please.

[daggum]

Just discount all the other historical accomplishments.

Kenshiro has never even been top 5 on the Ring P4P list ever. He spent few months ranked like 8-10 in his ENTIRE CAREER.

Are you trying to suggest you’re right and EVERYONE else on the Ring Panel is wrong.

Absolutely laughable.

simply being on the p4p list doesnt mean much though. they had canelo on the list the last 4 years and in that period he beat 0 fighters ranked in the top 3 of his division. in that same 4 year period teraji beat yabuki who became #1 after losing to teraji, kyoguchi who was #1, budler who was #2, canizales who is #1 right now, and he moved up to beat yuri akui who was #3. thats 5 top 3 wins to canelo's 0 yet teraji was only one the list briefly while canelo was a mainstay, and remember this is the rings own rankings so obviously there is some kind of disconnect if they arent heavily weighing their own rankings into their p4p decision process.

when you look at the quality of fighters teraji beat he is definitely on canelo and lomas level without a doubt. he simply was passed over by people who were probably just lazy or even biased. tank davis on the list but not teraji? who did tank ever beat?

[daggum]

Right so you'd agree that Carlos Baldomir is greater than anyone who never won a Lineal title?

In fact, go one further, Carlos Baldomir is greater than any fighter who never won a world title?

Let's just get your stance clear. Answers to both please.

baldomir is greater than anyone.

[hugh grant]

Floyd is like a nasty smell you can't shake off.
floyd was definitely the best at something at something in his era, but too many fighters he didn't fight, and things he didn't tick off bucket list, that i d personally penalise floyd for, but others turn a blind eye?
Maybe ring a bit biased?