The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?

[djtmal]

A real champion wouldn’t have turned down $40 mil to fight.

Lol what "real champion" goes on vacation when his division is at its peak

What "real champion" calls out Winky Wright at 154, then backs out at the 11th hour

What "real champion" says ggg is nothing special, but when its time to fight he is retired

Floyd "Scared Money" Mayweather that's who

[IronDanHamza]

It's no argument

Canelo is a hall of famer one of the best all time at the box office but anything past that on a p4p list stacked against the best he is gonna be way low. Plus you can make the argument that he hadn't hit his stride when he faced Mayweather. You just need to help Floyd out because his resume has gaping holes in it

Yes, exactly there is no argument that he's not an ATG. Only a moron like yourself would even attempt to deny it. No boxing writer, expert, journalist or anything of that nature would argue that he's not an ATG.

There are many Mexican ATG's and a large number of people are going to rank Canelo the #1 Mexican fighter of all time but if not lowest #2 behind Chavez.

There is not a fighter in boxing history that was the universal P4P #1 for 4 years, Top 10 P4P for 12 years and counting, 4 weight world champion 3 of which Lineal and one of which undisputed that is not an ATG fighter. If there is, then name them.

You can deny it, that's fine and to be expected as you're a dribbling fat inbred but it doesn't make it any less true.

[SouthpawRight]

Yes, exactly there is no argument that he's not an ATG. Only a moron like yourself would even attempt to deny it. No boxing writer, expert, journalist or anything of that nature would argue that he's not an ATG.

There are many Mexican ATG's and a large number of people are going to rank Canelo the #1 Mexican fighter of all time but if not lowest #2 behind Chavez.

There is not a fighter in boxing history that was the universal P4P #1 for 4 years, Top 10 P4P for 12 years and counting, 4 weight world champion 3 of which Lineal and one of which undisputed that is not an ATG fighter. If there is, then name them.

You can deny it, that's fine and to be expected as you're a dribbling fat inbred but it doesn't make it any less true.

better than Julio Cesar and Sal?!

how so

[IronDanHamza]

better than Julio Cesar and Sal?!

how so

You're going to argue to Salvador Sanchez had a better career than Canelo Alvarez?

Chavez you can argue, as I said. Sanchez, no.

I wouldn't put Sanchez above Ruben Olivares, or Morales, Barrera and Marquez let alone Canelo.

[famicommander]

Yes, exactly there is no argument that he's not an ATG. Only a moron like yourself would even attempt to deny it. No boxing writer, expert, journalist or anything of that nature would argue that he's not an ATG.

There are many Mexican ATG's and a large number of people are going to rank Canelo the #1 Mexican fighter of all time but if not lowest #2 behind Chavez.

There is not a fighter in boxing history that was the universal P4P #1 for 4 years, Top 10 P4P for 12 years and counting, 4 weight world champion 3 of which Lineal and one of which undisputed that is not an ATG fighter. If there is, then name them.

You can deny it, that's fine and to be expected as you're a dribbling fat inbred but it doesn't make it any less true.

Two division lineal, not three. Floyd was active at 154 when Canelo beat Trout, no way in hell Canelo vs Trout was a lineal championship fight.

TBRB rankings at the time of Canelo vs Trout:
1. Floyd
2. Trout
3. Lara
4. Canelo
5. Cotto

The guy you're arguing with is definitely wrong about Canelo, he's for sure an all time great, but definitely not a three division lineal champ. Oscar just gave him a Ring belt because it benefited Oscar to do so.

[djtmal]

Yes,

You still not telling me who did Canelo beat and when he beat them that warrants him being a top tier p4p fighter over a plethora of names

At smw his best division he isn't beating Jones, Ward, hell James Toney and Mike McCallum would school him

I rather listen to this guy than you any day

Teddy Atlas Says Canelo ‘Really Has 4 Or 5 Losses’: “He’s Not An All-Time Great”

[joseph5620]

None of them are the greatest boxers of all-time, but? Out of those three fighters, Floyd Mayweather Junior is the greatest boxer in terms of ability, and he also has the best overall resume. Floyd Mayweather Junior and Manny Pacquiao are also both greater than Terrence Crawford, who's resume is not really on their level'.

Note: In this modern era of boxing, if you want to pick three fighters to compare it would be better suited to rate 'Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Junior. Not Terrence Crawford'.

Because those three fighters have a combination of great resume, and whatever weight divisions they competed at? They did not just have one fight; instead they took on all comers and became the premier champions in those divisions. Their skills and boxing ability was more proven consistently at a higher level than Terrence Crawford'.

There are really two eras of boxing, where I personally think the rules and competitive landscape was so different that? You should not really compare the fighters from those eras. Modern day fighters in reality, should not be compared to fighters who fought in boxing eras pre - 1980. The weigh in rules were different, and the number of rounds the fighters fought for championship fights could range from 15 rounds to 45 rounds maximum.

To conclude: In my opinion none of the modern day boxers active post - 1980, especially in the lower weight classes 'which is the area of boxing, that has been impacted most by the passage of time. None of those fighters, in reality are more fearsome and better fighters. Both in skill level and overall conditioning which is conducive to fighting i.e. endurance and functional strength'.

Terrence Crawford is going to struggle fighting in any boxing era pre-1980, and maintaining his current form 'because he has predominantly during his career weight drained himself, to be the big man on fight night. He would be unable to do this during the boxing eras of Sugar Ray Leonard and Henry Armstrong'.

That is why I have always stated? Only really fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch and a few more modern day fighters who both trained with the use of old school methodologies but also never used weight draining tactics. Only those fighters could go back in time, and compete in any boxing era'.

Terrence Crawford is a great modern day boxer, but not an all-time greater fighter 'And Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Junior are all greater modern day fighters' etc.

Do you have any evidence of this or are you just creating false narratives? Because right now it looks like nothing more than a false narrative/lie.

[djtmal]

better than Julio Cesar and Sal?!

how so

At least with Chavez you could point to how he broke down and stopped prime Mel Taylor

Canelo I can't think of anybody what Amir Khan?

[djtmal]

The guy you're arguing with is definitely wrong about Canelo, he's for sure an all time great,

Let's be clear here. He's one of the best fighters in his generation, but across eras he'd fall so low it wouldn't be worth talking about

[Sallywynder]

Pacman. Won titles in a bigger range of weight classes than Floyd. Pacman began as a fly and won the flyweight world title!!! Won welter many times and every title in between..

Floyd began as a super feather and ended as a welter.

Pacman is a much smaller fighter. He won world titles as a flyweight!!!!! Floyd began his career 5 divisions bigger than Pacman by winning the super feather title! 5 DIVISIONS BIGGER AT THE SAME AGE!! Pacman went through the divisions to rise to challenges. Floyd went up divisions as he got bigger.

Pacman obviously had the better career than Floyd. Won more titles in more divisions, took more risks, went up divisions looking for challenges, got knocked out and came back and began again where he left off, going up divisions and winning titles. ATG. Legend. Has the entire worlds respect. Loved. Safe and protected by the people in the street.

While Floyd is a joke. Everyone hates him. Cant walk down the street without bodyguards. Never took the risks Pacman did. Didnt risk his record by looking for challenges divisions way above his natural weight. When he fought Pacman he ran like a ***** against the naturally much smaller Pacman.

Edit. For Crawford to equal Pacman he will have to win the middleweight title and defend it many times. He will have to defend his super middle title many times. Pacman went up 8 divisions and defended his welter title many times. He didnt hand pick one opponent, go up a few divisions, win on points and walk away from the title. He stayed and defended it. Bud will have to defend his super middle title many times like Pacman did at welter.

Bud started as a lightweight and won a title in that weight. He has gone up only 5 divisions to win the super middle. Pacman went up 8 divisions to win the welterweight and stayed around to defend it. Bud has to stick around and defend his SM title to be looked at like Pacman.