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  • IronDanHamza
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    #151
    Originally posted by djtmal

    You still not telling me who did Canelo beat and when he beat them that warrants him being a top tier p4p fighter over a plethora of names

    At smw his best division he isn't beating Jones, Ward, hell James Toney and Mike McCallum would school him

    I rather listen to this guy than you any day

    Teddy Atlas Says Canelo ‘Really Has 4 Or 5 Losses’: “He’s Not An All-Time Great”
    What's this "top tier" crap you keep inserting in there for no reason? Barely any fighters beat "prime top tier ATG's", that's a rare thing to do. Marvin Hagler for example, didn't even beat any prime HOF'ers, let alone prime ATG's, let alone "top tier" prime ATG's.

    Canelo Alvarez, is an ATG. 99% of people would agree with that.

    It's as simple as that.

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      #152
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      What's this "top tier".
      You know what tf it is.

      So who did Canelo beat that puts him in the upper echelon of all time greats

      Teddy Atlas Says Canelo ‘Really Has 4 Or 5 Losses’: “He’s Not An All-Time Great”

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        #153
        Originally posted by djtmal

        You know what tf it is.

        So who did Canelo beat that puts him in the upper echelon of all time greats

        Teddy Atlas Says Canelo ‘Really Has 4 Or 5 Losses’: “He’s Not An All-Time Great”
        Now it's "upper echelon". It's constant moving of the goalpost.

        You asked what prime ATG's Floyd has beaten, Canelo was an ATG, in his prime. End of story.

        Barely any fighter beat "upper echelon" ATG's in thier prime. It's a very rare thing to do.

        Take Marvin Hagler for example, didn't beat any prime HOF'ers, let alone prime ATG's, let alone "upper echelon" ATG's.

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          #154
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Now it's "upper echelon". It's constant moving of the goalpost.
          Top tier upper echelon it don't matter.

          Just tell me who did Canelo beat, that puts him at the top of the heap

          You like your boy Floyd right now. Dancing around the question

          Floyds best wins imo are Corrales and Hatton, neither is an all time great

          I guess those names don't hold as much weight as Canelo but Canelo isn't exactly four kings great now is he

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            #155
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza



            You asked what prime ATG's Floyd has beaten, Canelo was an ATG, in his prime. End of story.
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            Lol. Just like a Floyd boy, where bare minimum is all that is needed

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              #156
              Originally posted by djtmal

              Top tier upper echelon it don't matter.

              Right, It doesn't matter.

              An ATG is an ATG, and Canelo, is an ATG. It's that simple.

              Originally posted by djtmal
              Just tell me who did Canelo beat, that puts him at the top of the heap
              He's not at "the top of the heap" I don't know how many times you need that explaining.

              But he is, an ATG.

              Top wins he achieved to gain ATG status;

              Trout
              Lara
              Kirkland
              Angulo
              Cotto
              Golovkin
              Jacobs
              Plant
              Saunders
              Kovalev
              Callum Smith
              Liam Smith

              All world class fighters.





              Originally posted by djtmal
              Floyds best wins imo are Corrales and Hatton, neither is an all time great

              I guess those names don't hold as much weight as Canelo but Canelo isn't exactly four kings great now is he
              They are prime HOF'ers he beat. Also something Canelo did when he beat Golovkin.

              However it is something Hagler never did.

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                #157
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Lol. Just like a Floyd boy, where bare minimum is all that is needed
                ...You literally asked to name prime ATG's he beat.

                So I listed Canelo, who was a prime ATG.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza






                  He's not at "the top of the heap"

                  But he is, an ATG.

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                  He's not at the top of the heap you admit that, and you can argue he hadn't hit his peak when Floyd fought him, yet he is prime all time great I don't think so

                  Maybe had he fought/beat prime Manny you would have a leg to stand on

                  Stop trying to make Canelo into something he clearly is not

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    ...You literally asked to name prime ATG's he beat.
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                    He was too scared to fight anybody who fits that category

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza


                      Right, It doesn't matter.

                      An ATG is an ATG, and Canelo, is an ATG. It's that simple.



                      He's not at "the top of the heap" I don't know how many times you need that explaining.

                      But he is, an ATG.

                      Top wins he achieved to gain ATG status;

                      Trout
                      Lara
                      Kirkland
                      Angulo
                      Cotto
                      Golovkin
                      Jacobs
                      Plant
                      Saunders
                      Kovalev
                      Callum Smith
                      Liam Smith

                      All world class .
                      Teddy Atlas disagrees and I take his word over yours any day

                      Teddy Atlas Says Canelo ‘Really Has 4 Or 5 Losses’: “He’s Not An All-Time Great”

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