The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?

**Grandma Lover** · 11-25-2025, 10:38 PM

Pacquiao is the goat mainly for being a gentleman and clean dighter. Froid is a known steroid cheat and Crawford is atg but working with snac is suspect.

**Coverdale** · 11-26-2025, 03:13 AM

Yawn.

**Century Tuna** · 11-26-2025, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Memebox

Crawford fans keep insisting that TC is greater than Pacquiao. But how can a 5-division champion be greater than an 8-division champion? They say it’s easy — yet in the entire history of boxing, there’s only one 8-division. If it’s really that easy, then push Crawford to chase those divisions too.

Pacquiao proved greatness by beating fighters who were naturally bigger and had longer reach. Meanwhile, Crawford mostly faces opponents smaller than him — that’s not greatness, that’s an advantage. I’m not saying Crawford isn’t good; he’s talented. But if he wants to match Pacquiao’s legacy, he still has time. Do what Pacquiao did: move up, conquer higher divisions, win that 8th weight title, and fight opponents your own size and reach.

What about Floyd? Sorry, but a runner-hugger can’t be the GOAT.

Even the most clueless casual fan knows Floyd is basically a professional runner-hugger and yet he still toyed with Pacroid, the so-called ‘all-time great’ whose hype is bigger than his actual skill. Pacquiao’s entire ‘legacy’ looks like it was manufactured in a lab through careful cherry-picking and matchmaking so soft it should come with a pillow.

If Pacroid and Floyd ever stepped in with Crawford, it wouldn’t even be a fight, Bud would give Floyd a masterclass in footwork and angles, then put Pacquiao to sleep before the popcorn even gets warm. Crawford is too sharp, too technical, and way too intelligent for those two museum pieces.

Years from now, history won’t be kind, Pacquiao will be remembered not as a legend, but as the guy who ducked half the tests, believed his own propaganda, and fooled his fans into worshipping a myth. Eventually, people will wake up and realise the truth: Pacquiao wasn’t a boxing god, just the most glorified illusion in boxing history.

**EmmaRobert** · 11-26-2025, 05:31 AM

Any more information Survival race?

**hugh grant** · 11-26-2025, 07:42 AM

Pac is goat, even bud admitted that. But said pac is on roids? So bud is penalizing pac on a tecnicality

**El_Mero** · 11-26-2025, 08:43 AM

Fighter - Pac, Boxer/Puncher - Bud, Boxer -FMJ

**PRINCEKOOL** · 11-26-2025, 11:28 AM

None of them are the greatest boxers of all-time, but? Out of those three fighters, Floyd Mayweather Junior is the greatest boxer in terms of ability, and he also has the best overall resume. Floyd Mayweather Junior and Manny Pacquiao are also both greater than Terrence Crawford, who's resume is not really on their level'.

Note: In this modern era of boxing, if you want to pick three fighters to compare it would be better suited to rate 'Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Junior. Not Terrence Crawford'.

Because those three fighters have a combination of great resume, and whatever weight divisions they competed at? They did not just have one fight; instead they took on all comers and became the premier champions in those divisions. Their skills and boxing ability was more proven consistently at a higher level than Terrence Crawford'.

There are really two eras of boxing, where I personally think the rules and competitive landscape was so different that? You should not really compare the fighters from those eras. Modern day fighters in reality, should not be compared to fighters who fought in boxing eras pre - 1980. The weigh in rules were different, and the number of rounds the fighters fought for championship fights could range from 15 rounds to 45 rounds maximum.

To conclude: In my opinion none of the modern day boxers active post - 1980, especially in the lower weight classes 'which is the area of boxing, that has been impacted most by the passage of time. None of those fighters, in reality are more fearsome and better fighters. Both in skill level and overall conditioning which is conducive to fighting i.e. endurance and functional strength'.

Terrence Crawford is going to struggle fighting in any boxing era pre-1980, and maintaining his current form 'because he has predominantly during his career weight drained himself, to be the big man on fight night. He would be unable to do this during the boxing eras of Sugar Ray Leonard and Henry Armstrong'.

That is why I have always stated? Only really fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch and a few more modern day fighters who both trained with the use of old school methodologies but also never used weight draining tactics. Only those fighters could go back in time, and compete in any boxing era'.

Terrence Crawford is a great modern day boxer, but not an all-time greater fighter 'And Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Junior are all greater modern day fighters' etc.

**SouthpawRight** · 11-26-2025, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

None of them are the greatest boxers of all-time, but? Out of those three fighters, Floyd Mayweather Junior is the greatest boxer in terms of ability, and he also has the best overall resume. Floyd Mayweather Junior and Manny Pacquiao are also both greater than Terrence Crawford, who's resume is not really on their level'.

Note: In this modern era of boxing, if you want to pick three fighters to compare it would be better suited to rate 'Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Junior. Not Terrence Crawford'.

Because those three fighters have a combination of great resume, and whatever weight divisions they competed at? They did not just have one fight; instead they took on all comers and became the premier champions in those divisions. Their skills and boxing ability was more proven consistently at a higher level than Terrence Crawford'.

There are really two eras of boxing, where I personally think the rules and competitive landscape was so different that? You should not really compare the fighters from those eras. Modern day fighters in reality, should not be compared to fighters who fought in boxing eras pre - 1980. The weigh in rules were different, and the number of rounds the fighters fought for championship fights could range from 15 rounds to 45 rounds maximum.

To conclude: In my opinion none of the modern day boxers active post - 1980, especially in the lower weight classes 'which is the area of boxing, that has been impacted most by the passage of time. None of those fighters, in reality are more fearsome and better fighters. Both in skill level and overall conditioning which is conducive to fighting i.e. endurance and functional strength'.

Terrence Crawford is going to struggle fighting in any boxing era pre-1980, and maintaining his current form 'because he has predominantly during his career weight drained himself, to be the big man on fight night. He would be unable to do this during the boxing eras of Sugar Ray Leonard and Henry Armstrong'.

That is why I have always stated? Only really fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch and a few more modern day fighters who both trained with the use of old school methodologies but also never used weight draining tactics. Only those fighters could go back in time, and compete in any boxing era'.

Terrence Crawford is a great modern day boxer, but not an all-time greater fighter 'And Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Junior are all greater modern day fighters' etc.

Would Top Soviet Bivol be able to pull it off

fights at 175 but walks around at 185

**SouthpawRight** · 11-26-2025, 12:38 PM

The number of fights modern boxers take and shallower talent pool bars any of them from breaching the top 5 all time

Sugar Robinson
Harry
Henry
Sam
Ezzard

The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?