I'm gonna be honest with you regarding Boots/Bud

[dan_cov]

He wouldn't get the credit. This is why it has to be Bud or Ortiz.
I won't even give him credit even. What is there to give him credit for fighting guys a full 4-5 levels below?
Fighting guys who haven't a single advantage anywhere?

Boots vs Bakhram, Fundora, Baraou, Tellez or whoever. They just aren't good or a threat and they haven't done anything more than Boots has. Fans will just apply the same logic and say they have only beaten 1 top 5 opponent who was cheeks which would be fair.

Lima is #10 with the WBC, #9 IBF #8 in the WBA yet it was deemed as a comical mismatch which it was. Granted Ring rankings are a lot better but there are so many weak divisions and belt holders I no longer put much stock into them.

I just genuinely don't believe he will get any credit they'll just say the divisions ****** which they kinda do.

Sorry but I just don't care for them anymore than I do for Usyk vs ordinary Joe Parker or someone like Fabio Wardley to me its just a waste of time.

[SouthpawRight]

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[IronDanHamza]

He wouldn't get the credit. This is why it has to be Bud or Ortiz.
I won't even give him credit even. What is there to give him credit for fighting guys a full 4-5 levels below?
Fighting guys who haven't a single advantage anywhere?

Boots vs Bakhram, Fundora, Baraou, Tellez or whoever. They just aren't good or a threat and they haven't done anything more than Boots has. Fans will just apply the same logic and say they have only beaten 1 top 5 opponent who was cheeks which would be fair.

Lima is #10 with the WBC, #9 IBF #8 in the WBA yet it was deemed as a comical mismatch which it was. Granted Ring rankings are a lot better but there are so many weak divisions and belt holders I no longer put much stock into them.

I just genuinely don't believe he will get any credit they'll just say the divisions ****** which they kinda do.

Sorry but I just don't care for them anymore than I do for Usyk vs ordinary Joe Parker or someone like Fabio Wardley to me its just a waste of time.

Lima's not even in the Top 20 or 30 probably. He's crap and the fight shouldn't have even happened in the first place.

Boots should fight ranked opponents, very simple. Build a resume, so far he doesn't have one in any capacity.

When young fighters come up, the elite ones, they fight the best guys that are available and beat the #5, #4, #3 and then eventually the #1 and become #1. Then if they move up they do the same.

That's what Mayweather did, Pacquaio, Roy Jones, Crawford, Canelo, Inoue, essentially anyone that's been elite over the course of boxing history.

His main course of action should be to fight Ortiz next, if no Ortiz, whoever is #2 and then #3 or whoever else, then try and move up and do the same. That's how you prove yourself.

So far he ain't proved jack. He's in the same boat as Tank, but worse.

[Smash]

Boots vs Bakhram, Fundora, Baraou, Tellez or whoever. They just aren't good or a threat and they haven't done anything more than Boots has.

Lima is #10 with the WBC, #9 IBF #8 in the WBA yet it was deemed as a comical mismatch which it was. .

jazus i think this boots guy has hypotnised some people, just give him a total pass right up to p4p goat is next

[Coverdale]

Lima is #10 with the WBC, #9 IBF #8 in the WBA...

Sanctioning body rankings are a joke, mate. 11 out of 17 of the IBF's top rated contenders currently are not in the TBRB top ten.

Your guy is in a deep division and needs to start facing some of the legit top ten guys next before we crown him the new SRR.

[HisExcellency]

BigBobArum torches are to be passed

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Lol how can you mention Pacheco in the same breath as Boots? Surely you meant Ortiz or Benavidez aka somebody with the POTENTIAL to become a star?

Agree on Usyk-Itauma though... especially after Jalolov's diabolical performance against a journeyman the other day

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I only want to see them vs each other or Ortiz. There is no interest from me seeing them vs Bakhram, Tellez, Fundora etc

The only fight that makes sense skill, ability wise is Bud vs Boots because like I keep saying they are levels above the rest.
Proper ATG material. Ortiz is decent he can maybe pose problems, I'd accept this.
Bud and Boots are elite - I don't mean elite by this garbage eras standards I mean historically great, real elite. These other guys are merely 'good' and that is only really by todays standard, another era probably journeymen.

You can not sell me Boots vs Bakhram - His only win is vs Tim Tyszu who is practically YT level in terms of skill and he was bouncing shots off Bakhram left and right.
He's maybe the best at 154 now but on the grand scheme he's not that good, real talk. Just a big stiff guy with a bit of a left hook on him

What I am saying is these guys have nothing for Bud or Boots, nothing. They don't win a round.
And I feel I need to say this because fans are going to delude themselves that they're good even great fights and competitive only for Boots/Bud to obliterate them and for fans to backtrack and say they was overrated and how Tyszu flattered them and give Bud/Boots no credit.

I don't get boxings obsession with Fundora this guy is a modern day Richard Hall. He sucks!

Bud is laughably better than Boots. In terms of levels, someone like Murtazaliev is way closer to Boots than Boots is to Bud.

A good counter puncher is gonna be a nightmare for Ennis IMO, especially someone who can catch and counter, Bud would light him up.

[Smash]

bud would have fought boots if boots had made himself his mando and forced him to do it

but boots didnt do that, lots of up and coming guys do that as they know thats the only sure fire way to get the fight, usyk did it with AJ

when i recently listened to boots and his talk about the teo fight and why he didnt take it i was listening to spoof, he went on and on about whatever decision i make people will question it like he was some super duper star, well of course people will question your decisions, u were offered turki money to fight ortiz but said no im staying at 147 then when teo says ill take you on boots u say no actually im going to 154 lol

[famicommander]

bud would have fought boots if boots had made himself his mando and forced him to do it

but boots didnt do that, lots of up and coming guys do that as they know thats the only sure fire way to get the fight, usyk did it with AJ

when i recently listened to boots and his talk about the teo fight and why he didnt take it i was listening to spoof, he went on and on about whatever decision i make people will question it like he was some super duper star, well of course people will question your decisions, u were offered turki money to fight ortiz but said no im staying at 147 then when teo says ill take you on boots u say no actually im going to 154 lol

Crawford offered him a voluntary defense too. Ennis turned it down because he only wanted to fight on Showtime. That's how Crawford ended up fighting Avanesyan.

[Smash]

Crawford offered him a voluntary defense too. Ennis turned it down because he only wanted to fight on Showtime. That's how Crawford ended up fighting Avanesyan.

oh forgot about that one as well

so many opportunities and none taken and his fans say everyone is ducking him thats why he cant get bigger fights lol

that russian 'bogeyman' of 154 is looking for a good opponent in fact he cant find one at all as ortiz cried off

boots has now put the entire division on 'notice' lol wtf notice of what exactly? that im going for the wba full title and when i eventually get it i may or may not arrange a fight with one or zero of you?