I'm gonna be honest with you regarding Boots/Bud

[dan_cov]

I only want to see them vs each other or Ortiz. There is no interest from me seeing them vs Bakhram, Tellez, Fundora etc

The only fight that makes sense skill, ability wise is Bud vs Boots because like I keep saying they are levels above the rest.
Proper ATG material. Ortiz is decent he can maybe pose problems, I'd accept this.
Bud and Boots are elite - I don't mean elite by this garbage eras standards I mean historically great, real elite. These other guys are merely 'good' and that is only really by todays standard, another era probably journeymen.

You can not sell me Boots vs Bakhram - His only win is vs Tim Tyszu who is practically YT level in terms of skill and he was bouncing shots off Bakhram left and right.
He's maybe the best at 154 now but on the grand scheme he's not that good, real talk. Just a big stiff guy with a bit of a left hook on him

What I am saying is these guys have nothing for Bud or Boots, nothing. They don't win a round.
And I feel I need to say this because fans are going to delude themselves that they're good even great fights and competitive only for Boots/Bud to obliterate them and for fans to backtrack and say they was overrated and how Tyszu flattered them and give Bud/Boots no credit.

I don't get boxings obsession with Fundora this guy is a modern day Richard Hall. He sucks!

[dan_cov]

By all means have them relieve them of their titles but I can't get excited for these fights.
They are not even close to that level.

Boots probably knocks Fundora out cold inside 1 round.
He is just tall and falls first face into punches. He is a horrible fighter.

He will get killed vs someone with Boots athleticism, speed, precision, power, countering ability.

[IronDanHamza]

Boots need to fight some ranked fighters if anything.

He's only fought like 2 or 3 maximum and he's 28 years old.

[Coverdale]

Boots and Buds is never happening, so Boots needs to prove his alleged talent against all those guys you just flippantly dismissed.

[Smash]

u have no interest in seeing boots fight the current belt holders in the division? bit odd

shocks in boxing happen all the time and people get found out with different opponents at times

i would have liked bud to fight a few more of these 154 guys actually, u cant assume people just beat everybody they have to prove it

[dan_cov]

My issue with this is Bud retires and people start looking back at what his opposition had left.
I have no doubt Boots clears up and when he does people will say its weak and there potentially won't be the competition. It'll be sort of like RJJ without the Toney and B-Hop.

Then really we are stuck with missing out on a super fight between two truly exceptional fighters and left speculating just how great they are or what could have been.

I genuinely believe Boots walks through everyone at 154 and 160. They are absolute levels above everyone else to the point I think they need each other, genuinely so we can get a proper gauge of just how great they are.

I think this is why we hold Hagler, Hearns, Duran, SRL etc in such high regard because win-draw-lose they fought each other. It was true elites putting their skills against true elites, the highest skill imaginable.

With Bud vs Canelo even, a great win even if he does have limitations and is slightly past it, its a great win but for me he was comfortable, too comfortable.
I honestly believe Bud is even better than we have seen its just Canelo frankly didn't have what it took to bring it out of him. We seen it a little bit in the back end of the fight where he put an exclamation point on it and removed any doubt but I think there is more.
Same with Boots the better the competition the more he will rise to the occasion.

[IronDanHamza]

My issue with this is Bud retires and people start looking back at what his opposition had left.
I have no doubt Boots clears up and when he does people will say its weak and there potentially won't be the competition. It'll be sort of like RJJ without the Toney and B-Hop.

Then really we are stuck with missing out on a super fight between two truly exceptional fighters and left speculating just how great they are or what could have been.

I genuinely believe Boots walks through everyone at 154 and 160. They are absolute levels above everyone else to the point I think they need each other, genuinely so we can get a proper gauge of just how great they are.

I think this is why we hold Hagler, Hearns, Duran, SRL etc in such high regard because win-draw-lose they fought each other. It was true elites putting their skills against true elites, the highest skill imaginable.

With Bud vs Canelo even, a great win even if he does have limitations and is slightly past it, its a great win but for me he was comfortable, too comfortable.
I honestly believe Bud is even better than we have seen its just Canelo frankly didn't have what it took to bring it out of him. We seen it a little bit in the back end of the fight where he put an exclamation point on it and removed any doubt but I think there is more.
Same with Boots the better the competition the more he will rise to the occasion.

So Boots should just fight them then.

Racking up wins against Top 5 ranked fighters is what he should be doing.

So far I believe he's only fought one, Stanionis, at the age of 28....

It's not good enough.

[Coverdale]

u have no interest in seeing boots fight the current belt holders in the division? bit odd

shocks in boxing happen all the time and people get found out with different opponents at times

i would have liked bud to fight a few more of these 154 guys actually, u cant assume people just beat everybody they have to prove it

Plus OP is saying this off the back of a KO1 mismatch. I think he got a bit excited.

[Smash]

I have no doubt Boots clears up and when he does people will say its weak

..

doesnt really make much sense

maybe this russian guy is totally over rated but hes rated because people are avoiding him, boots can end this right now if he wants and set the record straight

ortiz fundora are proven tough in the ring, way better than anyone boots has fought

u cant give boots a gimme on all of them and say go fight bud who is 2 classes above now, boots himself had plenty of time to target bud at 147 if he really wanted by making himself his mando, but he didnt do this, im sure for a reason too

[Elastic Recoilz]

Boots is a very good fighter but in that second Karen Chukhadzhian fight he got hit quite a lot and even hurt once. Maybe it was the unique herky jerky style of Chkhadzhian that gave him problems but at this moment in time Boots is the type of guy who looks phenomenal blowing out lower level opposition. when he steps up at 154lbs then we'll really know how good he is. The IBF should try to arrange Murtazaliev vs Boots for the title because now with Fundora injured, going down the wba route is a non starter.