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  • famicommander
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    #31
    Originally posted by BlackRobb

    Ramirez was WBO champ and considered a star on the cusp.
    He won that vacant belt against Dogboe, defended it against nobody, and got beaten twice by Espinoza.

    He also lost his pro debut to a nobody, getting dropped in the process.

    He's a 14-3 fighter and his sole good win was against a faded Dogboe.

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      #32
      Originally posted by famicommander

      He won that vacant belt against Dogboe, defended it against nobody, and got beaten twice by Espinoza.

      He also lost his pro debut to a nobody, getting dropped in the process.

      He's a 14-3 fighter and his sole good win was against a faded Dogboe.
      Losing to Espinoza is no shame. I see no line to fight the guy for a reason.

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        #33
        Originally posted by BlackRobb

        Losing to Espinoza is no shame. I see no line to fight the guy for a reason.
        Leo called him out by name already and there were crickets from Bob Arum and the Espinoza camp.

        Top Rank Diet.

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          #34
          Originally posted by famicommander

          Leo called him out by name already and there were crickets from Bob Arum and the Espinoza camp.

          Top Rank Diet.
          Lies. Show me where Leo called anyone out. Leo don't even want a Fulton rematch.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BlackRobb

            Lies. Show me where Leo called anyone out. Leo don't even want a Fulton rematch.
            Here he is in January saying he wants Espinoza after his then-upcoming mandatory defense against Kameda:
            It'd be a good fight for the fans. He's a Mexican fighter. I'm a Mexican-American fighter. And I think it'd be great for the fans. But I'm open to any of the champions, to be honest, although I think the Rafael Espinoza one would be great.


            You even commented in the thread about it, so you saw him say it.

            And here is Leo again calling him out after the Kameda fight:
            Honestly, right now I would love to get that [WBO champion Rafael] Espinoza fight. I know he's tall and lanky, but I see a lot of flaws in him. A lot of things that we can expose and that would go to our advantage.

            I'm pretty sure that [Top Rank] would want to make that fight. I'm not sure what plans they have for Espinoza, but if they want to do it, we're more than willing to.
            https://www.boxingscene.com/articles...afael-espinoza

            Fulton is moving to 130. We've known that for months. Stop deflecting.

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              #36
              Originally posted by famicommander

              Here he is in January saying he wants Espinoza after his then-upcoming mandatory defense against Kameda:



              You even commented in the thread about it, so you saw him say it.

              And here is Leo again calling him out after the Kameda fight:

              https://www.boxingscene.com/articles...afael-espinoza

              Fulton is moving to 130. We've known that for months. Stop deflecting.
              Bob should make they that fight. Leo would be easy work for Espinoza. Leo is not as skilled as Robeisy.

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                #37
                Originally posted by BlackRobb

                Bob should make they that fight. Leo would be easy work for Espinoza. Leo is not as skilled as Robeisy.
                Leo is considerably better than Ramirez and he's considerably better than Espinoza. Which is why Bob is ignoring his request to fight Espinoza.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  Leo is considerably better than Ramirez and he's considerably better than Espinoza. Which is why Bob is ignoring his request to fight Espinoza.
                  Is this the same Leo who looked amateurish against Fulton 5 years ago?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BlackRobb

                    Is this the same Leo who looked amateurish against Fulton 5 years ago?
                    Fulton is an elite fighter who has only lost to Inoue and is about to challenge for a world title in his third weight division against Foster. Wins over Brandon Figueroa twice, Angelo Leo, Carlos Castro, Paulus Ambunda, Danny Roman, Arnold Khegai, Isaac Avelar, etc.

                    Leo still has wins over Luis Alberto Lopez, Tomoki Kameda in Kameda's home town on a card promoted by his brother, Aaron Alameda, Mike Plania, Tramaine Williams, etc.

                    Espinoza's entire resume is the same 14-3 fighter twice, and Ramirez's entire resume is a faded Isaac Dogboe.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by famicommander

                      Fulton is an elite fighter who has only lost to Inoue and is about to challenge for a world title in his third weight division against Foster. Wins over Brandon Figueroa twice, Angelo Leo, Carlos Castro, Paulus Ambunda, Danny Roman, Arnold Khegai, Isaac Avelar, etc.

                      Leo still has wins over Luis Alberto Lopez, Tomoki Kameda in Kameda's home town on a card promoted by his brother, Aaron Alameda, Mike Plania, Tramaine Williams, etc.

                      Espinoza's entire resume is the same 14-3 fighter twice, and Ramirez's entire resume is a faded Isaac Dogboe.
                      Fulton is "elite" because he beat Figueroa twice?
                      He's gonna get hurt at 130 by Shock Foster. Bad move.

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