Comments Thread For: Sam Goodman refuses to place Naoya Inoue above Nick Ball

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Sam Goodman has dismissed suggestions that Saturday?s fight with Nick Ball is easier than that he twice prepared for against Naoya Inoue.
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[BlackRobb]

Fake injuries to duck Monster. I have lost a lot of respect for Goodman.

[daggum]

this stu-pid f-uckta-rd chose to fight chanaoi worawut instead of inoue. i knew something was up when he did that. then its very strange how his eye is fine when hes fighting worawut or cesar vaca espinoza. anytime its an inoue fight the recurring cut starts bleeding.

[famicommander]

Nick Ball vs world title winning opponents:
W vs Isaac Dogboe UD 10
D vs Rey Vargas SD 12
W vs Raymond Ford SD 12
W vs TJ Doheny RTD 10

I thought Ball deserved the W against Vargas, but he deserved the L against Ray Ford.

In any case, Inoue would sleepwalk through Ball's entire resume.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Nick Ball vs world title winning opponents:
W vs Isaac Dogboe UD 10
D vs Rey Vargas SD 12
W vs Raymond Ford SD 12
W vs TJ Doheny RTD 10

I thought Ball deserved the W against Vargas, but he deserved the L against Ray Ford.

In any case, Inoue would sleepwalk through Ball's entire resume.

I don't understand how ESPN has Ball ranked above Espinoza.

[famicommander]

I don't understand how ESPN has Ball ranked above Espinoza.

Leo is the best fighter in that division by a lot. Espinoza hasn't beaten anybody and Ball got a gift against Ford.

[letsbox10]

Leo is the best fighter in that division by a lot. Espinoza hasn't beaten anybody and Ball got a gift against Ford.

Leo has a robbery win over Alameda and has a win over kameda which most thought was a draw. He also got beat 11-1 by fulton.

[famicommander]

Leo has a robbery win over Alameda and has a win over kameda which most thought was a draw. He also got beat 11-1 by fulton.

The Fulton fight was in a different weight class, Fulton is an elite fighter anyway, and the Alameda and Kameda fights were both clear wins. Especially considering the Kameda fight took place in Kameda's hometown on a card promoted by Kameda's older brother.

But, most importantly, he also has a KO win over Luis Alberto Lopez who was the #1 ranked fighter in the division at the time by the TBRB.

[letsbox10]

The Fulton fight was in a different weight class, Fulton is an elite fighter anyway, and the Alameda and Kameda fights were both clear wins. Especially considering the Kameda fight took place in Kameda's hometown on a card promoted by Kameda's older brother.

But, most importantly, he also has a KO win over Luis Alberto Lopez who was the #1 ranked fighter in the division at the time by the TBRB.

Different weight or not he still hot beat. Alameda definitely was a robbery as he himself didn't know what to say in post fight inside the ring interview when asked how did you win. As for kameda maybe he won by 1 round or it was a draw that's how close it was. And I agree with you on him having the best win at 126 but all I'm saying is that 126 Champs have not fought each other thats why we don't know who the No 1 is.

[famicommander]

Different weight or not he still hot beat. Alameda definitely was a robbery as he himself didn't know what to say in post fight inside the ring interview when asked how did you win. As for kameda maybe he won by 1 round or it was a draw that's how close it was. And I agree with you on him having the best win at 126 but all I'm saying is that 126 Champs have not fought each other thats why we don't know who the No 1 is.

48 fan scorecards on BoxRec for Leo vs Kameda had it 115.09-113.39 in favor of Leo
11 fan scorecards for BoxRec Leo vs Alameda had it 96-94 Leo, while BoxRec's professional judges cards had it 97-93 Leo

And it doesn't matter how close the win was, he won the fights. Kameda was a TBRB ranked opponent and a former world titlist fighting in his hometown on a card promoted by his brother, trying to set him up for an Inoue megafight, and Leo got the win.

Losing to Fulton at 122 has absolutely zero to do with the 126 rankings. Zero.

Leo has easily had the best run at 126. Espinoza was fighting dudes with upside down records as recently as 2022 and his only good opponent at all was Ramirez twice.

Leo vs Espinoza would be the biggest fight in the division for sure right now, but it's silly to pretend Espinoza's resume at 126 even comes close to stacking up to Leo's.