I wonder how good Itauma really is

[hugh grant]

I think he is really good already but people won't say it until he beats whyte. He wanted to be youngest champ, but made a mess of that, didn't seem to know exactly how they were going to go about it.?
But now pressure is off and will probably be bought along slowly no rush now. Once he beats whyte, he might even fight lesser opponents

[Boxing 112]

I think he is really good already but people won't say it until he beats whyte. He wanted to be youngest champ, but made a mess of that, didn't seem to know exactly how they were going to go about it.?
But now pressure is off and will probably be bought along slowly no rush now. Once he beats whyte, he might even fight lesser opponents

Not sure how you can say made a mess of it. Usyk had all the belts, then Dubois got one, there was never a realistic opportunity to get one by now. Usyk and even Fury are also a lot better than any champs of 86.

Tyson had his champion shot at this age but at 28 fights. Imagine if Tyson was fighting now in a social media era and the same 19 opponents in the first year what would the reaction be? You know everyone would ****t on him and say he's fighting bums. Can you imagine Itauma trying to fight 20 cans in a year what the reaction would be, way more pressure on fighters now as everyone has a live opinion blogs social media etc Itauma was 4 fights in being ripped for fighting bums etc when if you go back and look at some of these legends who they were fighting were probably even worse few fights into their careers

[Stuntman Mike]

Who has been allowed to spar him all out? Because Ben Davidson stated that 'He does not allow Fabio Wardley or Anthony Joshua to spar with Moses Itauma all out'.

So who are those heavyweight fighters, you are talking about 'That have sparred him all out? He has fought nobody at a top level, and he has sparred nobody at a top level'.

I personally think Moses Itauma is clearly talented, but? People are overrating him slightly. He did nothing much as an amateur fighter, and really in the professional ranks we have not seen him pushed in a fight or made to show more of his game'.

I have stated this before 'Moses Itauma looks to have those Rid**** Bowe type genetics. But does he have Bowe's boxing ability?' For all we know Moses Itauma could be at his absolute peak now, he does appear to be one of those people who matured very early in life. And this has aided him making an impact and standing out as a fighter very early in his career'.

Note: Moses Itauma looks to have solid power, and a good ability to put his punches together 'That is it. I don't think that is enough to bestow him as the next Mike Tyson level talent in the heavyweight division'

I think certain people within the boxing community, working the media 'Have a incentive to put serious hype on Itauma. Because similar to when Anthony Joshua was performing very well and was on the ascendancy, the entire sport of British Boxing benefited from it'.

To conclude: I personally don't rate Moses Itauma as high as many other people 'I think David Price at the beginning of his career, looked to be a more formidable fighter. No matter what people say about Price, he was beating up and knocking out top level domestic fighters. He was once upon a time unequivocally the best British Heavyweight fighter, even Tyson Fury chose not to fight him and vacated his commonwealth title'.

I just sense that Moses Itauma if he is going to be a top level fighter 'His team and promoters will have to capitalize on his ability real quick. So it makes absolute sense to match him vs Dillian Whyte now and then if he can win? Move into European and Low World level fighters' etc.

Have you seen interviews where Ituama has been asked about Fabio Wardly??

he is respectful but you can see it in his face hes probably already dominated Wardly in sparring.

How do you know its not Moses thats being told not to spar at 100 percent because hes dominating.

I dont know the ins and outs but i do know when he was asked about Wardly i could tell he felt he had his number

If he dominates Whyte will you be impressed with that??

Who do you think he should fight after Whyte to impress you?

I remember watching Price el Sparko'ing bums and my old man claiming he was the next best thing since Mike Tyson but i seen the defensive flaws in his attacks and a couple of fights after he was chinned big time

But I'll admit where i am wrong because i thought Fury was worse and he really shocked me he got substantially better round about the time he fought the cab driver called Martin Rogan

[ShoulderRoll]

He passes the eye test but still has to prove it against top competition. Sort of like Boots Ennis.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Have you seen interviews where Ituama has been asked about Fabio Wardly??

he is respectful but you can see it in his face hes probably already dominated Wardly in sparring.

How do you know its not Moses thats being told not to spar at 100 percent because hes dominating.

I dont know the ins and outs but i do know when he was asked about Wardly i could tell he felt he had his number

If he dominates Whyte will you be impressed with that??

Who do you think he should fight after Whyte to impress you?

I remember watching Price el Sparko'ing bums and my old man claiming he was the next best thing since Mike Tyson but i seen the defensive flaws in his attacks and a couple of fights after he was chinned big time

But I'll admit where i am wrong because i thought Fury was worse and he really shocked me he got substantially better round about the time he fought the cab driver called Martin Rogan

Anthony Joshua beat a peak version of Dillian Whyte by knockout, and in reality? Although Whyte did put up a good effort, Joshua was winning most of all the rounds before knocking Whyte out. Do you think that was an impressive performance? Joshua was a domestic level fighter back then. Or was it only a good performance beating Dillian Whyte for Tyson Fury and Moses Ituama?'

Whyte was miles outside of his peak, and faded badly as a fighter 'Even when he fought Tyson Fury'.

Note: Moses Ituama is supposed to beat up and blast out Dillian Whyte 'Surely you must understand that? Hardcore boxing fans should really understand how the promotion game works. Match making is not there to dupe hardcore boxing fans, it is there to mainly create narratives in the minds of a more surface level sports fan'.

Surface level i.e. casual boxing fans, will know all about Dillian Whyte 'He beat Chisora, was smashed up by Fury and produced good effort vs Anthony Joshua'.

If so many people believe Moses Ituama is a future dominant heavyweight Champion 'Why is beating Dillian Whyte an impressive performance, at this stage of his career?'

A few months ago, masses of people were all complaining with the prospect of Whyte vs Joshua III.

No, I won't be that impressed if Moses Ituama beats Dillian Whyte in impressive fashion 'Because Whyte is there for the taking. Even if Whyte somehow wins this fight, I would not be surprised in the slightest if he is annihilated by Anthony Joshua in a trilogy fight'.

There are no sparring stories being spread on a street level about Moses Ituama 'I honestly don't think he has dominated any of the top British heavyweights in training. If he did? We would all in varying details, know about those sparring sessions'.

As Darren Till a mixed martial arts fighters stated in his own words 'In this boxing world people talk, it is a close community'.

Like I stated in my previous post 'Moses Ituama appears to have those Rid**** Bowe type genetics. I think his team may have to capitalize on his ability as soon as possible. I would imagine that he is training with a high level of work ethic, but even still? I don't think Ituama is in great condition'.

I don't think he is the innate athletic ability of Anthony Joshua or the innate fighting ability of Tyson Fury 'He seems somewhere in between those two fighters'.

To conclude: Boxing as a sport wants superstars 'Certain folk in the game think Moses Ituama could be one of the next big boxing stars in British boxing. That is why there is a mass co-ordinated narrative being pushed in the media about him'.

Some people will be highly influenced by this 'I am not; I will wait until Moses Ituama really starts beating top level fighters' etc.

[IronDanHamza]

Have you seen interviews where Ituama has been asked about Fabio Wardly??

he is respectful but you can see it in his face hes probably already dominated Wardly in sparring.

How do you know its not Moses thats being told not to spar at 100 percent because hes dominating.

I dont know the ins and outs but i do know when he was asked about Wardly i could tell he felt he had his number

If he dominates Whyte will you be impressed with that??

Who do you think he should fight after Whyte to impress you?

I remember watching Price el Sparko'ing bums and my old man claiming he was the next best thing since Mike Tyson but i seen the defensive flaws in his attacks and a couple of fights after he was chinned big time

But I'll admit where i am wrong because i thought Fury was worse and he really shocked me he got substantially better round about the time he fought the cab driver called Martin Rogan

I thought David Price would dominate the era aswell. I think most people did.

Crazy when you think about it. When Thompson sparked him in 1 round it was genuinely shocking, to me at least.

[Light_Speed]

People are extremely critical towards Dubois, Parker, Kabayel, Hrgovic, Bakole, Zhang, but these guys are all tested. Itauma is completelly untested.

For what it's worth, Moses iced McKean in 1 rd who almost went 12 with Hrgovic.

[JakeTheBoxer]

For what it's worth, Moses iced McKean in 1 rd who almost went 12 with Hrgovic.

That doesn't mean anything.

[Toffee]

Eye test doesn't always stand up. Even hand speed can be deceptive when guys are fighting at a lower level.

He's definitely got something, but you never really know until the level gets stepped up.

Personally I think Whyte is a really good yardstick for where he's at. And from an interview I saw recently, Whyte has put some work in for this. He looks pretty trim.

[Light_Speed]

That doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't mean that much but when the difference in results is that drastic, it means something.