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  • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    You defended Floyd ever since you have almost 100,000 posts defending him

    There are dozens of fighters better than Floyd. Just about all of them beat all time great fighters in their prime and Floyd didn't. You never provided this long list of boxing historians saying Floyd was the goat and we know you lying there

    What Floyd did it was cool for his era but it don't transcend eras except for the money he made.
    Nobody gives him any chance against his atg peers because he did too many back door moves. Fought too many shopworn and c fighters


    Floyd beat a past time Manny in the worst mega fight ever as far as entertainment. It proved that Floyd was better at cherrypicking when to fight guys he was scared of. It was one of Floyd's worst outings that you shouldn't try to glorify too much being that all he did was run hug and hide behind the ref. His pops told him he was scared.
    I never claimed there was a list of historians that said he was the goat.

    I said they have him ranked above Manny. They were posted and you commented on them.

    Just like all the boxers during his era were going to beat him. Shane, Manny, etc. They all lost too.

    Manny didn’t show up. He never tried after the first round counter shot other than maybe round 4 and 9. He was content to get the payday.

    All he did was win 10-2, 10-2,9-3 on the judges cards. Against a guy his fans claim is an ATG. lol.

    Conor McGregor fought more bravely against Floyd than Manny did.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-24-2025, 02:00 PM.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      I never claimed there was a list of historians that said he was the goat.

      I said.
      You can say whatever you want now. You never provided anything to back it up. As far as I am concerned if it isn't Bert Sugar or Max Kellerman it's biased

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        You sadly actually think you’re right. Lmfao. This is the same warped mindset that led you to post yesterday we were battling. You aren’t a rational human being.

        Again this kind of warped, demented thinking is just too bizarre for a rational adult to deal with.

        I brought up Holyfield for the reasons stated- they are ATG’s that have had similar careers going from cruiser to hwy and being champions at both weights.

        Usyk can’t be above Ali as a boxer for only resume reasons. To try and compare them as men is ridiculous given Ali’s lifetime experiences.

        I am going to leave it at this because you aren’t sane or rational.
        damm right!! you brought up pac and say "so we shouldnt compare pac to floyd"... because I said Ali has 5 L's so it's not far fetch to compared Usyk to Ali... then you said "so we shouldnt compare pac to floyd, implying that floyd is levels above pac since pac has a few L's.. you didnt think i was gonna flip it on you and say so going by your logic, usyk should be better than Ali since usyk is undefeated just like floyd. im always a few steps ahead of you.. you are too easy to read.
        Last edited by IceTrayDaGang; 07-24-2025, 02:15 PM.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



          Just like all the boxers during his era were going to beat him. Shane, Manny, etc. They all lost too.
          Well you can say he beat those guys, but you can't say he beat them in their prime, and he avoided those guys in their prime

          You can say he beat Marcos Madonna in his prime though
          Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 02:38 PM.

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            Well he is retired. Most of us don’t engage in the same silliness you and the other Manny ball gobblers do.

            Why?

            Because we saw, as did you, Floyd beat Manny easily by a wide margin. There really is nothing more to discuss as to who is better between them.

            So the Manny fans keep trying to find guys better than Floyd for the reasons I stated.

            I didn’t expect the loss to make all of you so upset. I should’ve known better. Losers behave irrationally.
            MJ still has a lot of fans and he's been retired for how long now??? floyd just doesnt have that many fans that are actually loyal fans. floyd's claim to fame was based on boxing fans having a dislike for him so they pay for his ppv in hopes to see him lose.

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            • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

              i dont think it's ridiculous to compared him to Ali (dude has 5 L's).. Holyfield aint really all that great, plus, holyfield has been accused of being on peds (you even made this accusation yourself).. this is probably why you feel it's ok to compared Usyk to holyfield. just being honest here.


              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

              Using that logic we shouldn’t compare Manny to Floyd. Of course you don’t think that.

              I have joked about Evan fields yes. He is still an ATG.

              That is dumb AF.
              see right through where you were trying to go with this.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



                Manny didn’t show up. He never tried after the first round counter shot other than maybe round 4 and 9. He was content to get the payday.

                All he did was win 10-2, 10-2,9-3 on the judges cards. Against a guy his fans claim is an ATG. lol.

                Conor McGregor fought more bravely against Floyd than Manny did.
                Manny was past his prime. Still if it wasn't for him pressing the action the fans would have left the arena by the 7th round as all Floyd did was run hug and spoil. To gloat over that shows how much of a fanboy you are

                Conor McGregor was in his prime and had height/reach on Floyd. Somebody taught him how to jab. He did a good job if he didn't run out of gas he would have made the late rounds more interesting. Shows you how bogus Floyd was to count a 0-0 mma guy on the resume
                Last edited by djtmal; 07-24-2025, 02:33 PM.

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                • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                  MJ still has a lot of fans and he's been retired for how long now??? floyd just doesnt have that many fans that are actually loyal fans. floyd's claim to fame was based on boxing fans having a dislike for him so they pay for his ppv in hopes to see him lose.
                  I agree nobody seems to care about Floyd

                  Except for Big Dunn

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                  • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post




                    see right through where you were trying to go with this.
                    This post shows how dumb you truly are.

                    What you highlighted in red is me talking about you using logic with respect to Ali and Usyk that you have never, nor would ever, use when talking about Floyd and Manny.

                    Yet somehow you think it’s about something else.

                    My fault for at least thinking I was discussing this with someone rational and sane.

                    I will not make that mistake again.

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      I never claimed there was a list of historians that said he was the goat.

                      I said they have him ranked above Manny. They were posted and you commented on them.

                      Just like all the boxers during his era were going to beat him. Shane, Manny, etc. They all lost too.

                      Manny didn’t show up. He never tried after the first round counter shot other than maybe round 4 and 9. He was content to get the payday.

                      All he did was win 10-2, 10-2,9-3 on the judges cards. Against a guy his fans claim is an ATG. lol.

                      Conor McGregor fought more bravely against Floyd than Manny did.
                      It's funny why anyone would claim Floyd's above pac. Was this the day after floyd best pac, so maybe we're swayed prematurely?
                      But funny how all common opponents say pac was the best they faced?
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 07-24-2025, 03:00 PM.

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