The skill of Deontay Wilder

[Willow The Wisp]

Deontay is at least as good as Gatti was no? I mean point being that the HOF in boxing does not mean much... Would I discuss Wilder in the context of the real measure (ATG), no... But he has to be considered one of the hardest hitters. It is in the physics.

The IBHOF is the ONE thing that has meaning in this sport, in all of combat sports.

Credentialed Experts vote on this; and you don't get in if you have to rely on chokes, eye pokes, kicks, bites or buggery.


Fans and their average assessment of what an "ATG" is?.....

Jake Paul, Sam Langford...its all the same.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Fury did not fight like an idiot in the third fight. Fury no longer had the legs he had in his prime so he had to close the distance and take the fight to Wilder. Which works however it's still very dangerous as eventually Wilder clipped him during this strategy, then clipped him again and was close to winning.

That btw also disproves the narrative that Wilder only has power in his punches if he takes a long running start. he did not load up on the punches he dropped Fury with again.

After that, Deontay was washed up. He lost his legs and confidence, and as they say power comes from the legs(technically) and he can no longer find his spots for attack and plant his feet.

Disagree. Fury used his legs just fine against Usyk, he moved the entire fight and only took one shot that shook him. Fury knew after the 1st Wilder fight that Wilder had no shot fighting off the back foot. He then steamrolled him in the 2nd fight. I think you are taking credit away from Wilder when you say that Fury didn't have legs in that 3rd fight. Wilder improved his defense and honestly fought a smart fight. Fury tried the same tactics and got hurt because of it. Fury should have boxed more and loomed for openings but he got lucky and didn't get knocked unconscious.

Fury is not the same since that trilogy and had he boxed more intelligently in that 3rd fight, he may have had more left in the tank. Wilder is a shell since those fights.

I take nothing away from Wilder's heart. He isn't a good boxer but he had power and went through hell trying to win. And to watch Usyk Fury both coasting to paychecks in their "classic" boring as hell fights.....it really makes you appreciate Wilder wanting to beat Fury and giving it his all.

[Willow The Wisp]

You can make the same case for Wilder as you could Gatti and Vinny.

Why is Gatti in but Tarver would KO Roy Jones not in the hall of fame ? You can't say drugs because there's other drug cheats in the hall of fame right now.

Drug cheats?? There are several MURDERERS in the IBHOF right now. Anyone able to tell me how many?

[MulaKO]

Deontay is at least as good as Gatti was no? I mean point being that the HOF in boxing does not mean much... Would I discuss Wilder in the context of the real measure (ATG), no... But he has to be considered one of the hardest hitters. It is in the physics.

Gatti put AC , Jersey even NYC back on the map
Ask anyone what it meant when Gatti was fighting in that area
Gatti fought some true boxers unlike Wilder

[Coverdale]

The hall of fame IS the standard, and of course he gets in.

No it isn't, that's just your US-centric mindset talking.

You probably think the Oscars are 'the standard' too, rather than just some self-aggrandising ceremony for providing an American actor with a trophy for performing in the latest ham fisted Hollywood 'blockbuster'.

[MalevolentBite]

No fughin way
Sorry

You are hating man. Gatti wasn't nothing special. Deontay atleast had more then 9 title defenses. Then fought to a draw with the lineal champion. Gatti never did that.

[MulaKO]

You are hating man. Gatti wasn't nothing special. Deontay atleast had more than i9 title defenses. Then fought to a draw with the lineal champion. Gatti never did that.

9 title fights against who ???
Lmfao
I'll ask you in 10 years who will be remembered and who has been forgotten
As a matter of fact , who did you compare Gatti to ???

[Dr Z]

And Gatti does?

No, he does not. Did I say he did? He is better than Wilder though.

[Willow The Wisp]

No it isn't, that's just your US-centric mindset talking.

You probably think the Oscars are 'the standard' too, rather than just some self-aggrandising ceremony for providing an American actor with a trophy for performing in the latest ham fisted Hollywood 'blockbuster'.

Do You think? Big fan?

[Willow The Wisp]

9 title fights against who ???
Lmfao
I'll ask you in 10 years who will be remembered and who has been forgotten
As a matter of fact , who did you compare Gatti to ???

Did you attend any of those fights?
Follow the fight game awhile?
Know a lot, do you?