The skill of Deontay Wilder

[RingoKid]

He says on an internet that would not exist with out the US, using a device, be it phone, computer, or game machine, invented in the US, with peripherals originating in the US, guided by code from the US, simplified by a user interface invented in the US, on a US owned forum.

Dollar to donuts in a t-shirt and/or jeans, driving a motor vehicle from a production run to a 9 - 5



It isn't Willow with head-in-ass syndrome brah.


Not Willow with an expressed bias here either.




This ***** over here acting like he's too good for Starbucks and McDonalds


Cultural backwater indeed.

How many rap super stars in England? How many rockstars in Germany? How many pop stars in Korea?

When is the last time this planet even produced a musical genre the rest of the world gave a **** that is not derivative of American music?

You know how many morris dancers are active in America? How about England? Nor I, but you're just as ignorant to your actual culture as us huh?

Oh that's rich. American culture is a pisstake of Euro with some slavery, dispossessed Natives and Hispanic culture thrown in.

Fück Starbucks and McDonalds and every other brand

And the world is supposed to be forever grateful and bend the knee to American exceptionalism...sorry champ but go fück yourself!

[TintaBoricua]

To be fair, he nearly KO'd Fury in their first fight and gave him a tough fight in their 3rd encounter. Having dropped Fury 3 times in 3 fights. Someone as bad as everyone's stating should not be dropping Fury and nearly KOing him, right?

That said, his aura of invincibility vanished after the 2nd Fury fight. He was never the same.

Four. Four times. Flash knockdown in the first fight, a near death experience knockdown in the 12th round of the 1st, an imitation of Joe Frazier galloping in place after a flush right hand in the third fight, and a follow-up knockdown following the previous one.

A lot of people like to say Fury steamrolled Wilder, but they definitely shaved years off of each other. If not the entire trilogy, definitely the third one. Fury walked through hell to get those wins/draw.

[billeau2]

Oh that's rich. American culture is a pisstake of Euro with some slavery, dispossessed Natives and Hispanic culture thrown in.

Fück Starbucks and McDonalds and every other brand

And the world is supposed to be forever grateful and bend the knee to American exceptionalism...sorry champ but go fück yourself!

I love how you managed to get the F word past the censors! That is creative.

[billeau2]

Four. Four times. Flash knockdown in the first fight, a near death experience knockdown in the 12th round of the 1st, an imitation of Joe Frazier galloping in place after a flush right hand in the third fight, and a follow-up knockdown following the previous one.

A lot of people like to say Fury steamrolled Wilder, but they definitely shaved years off of each other. If not the entire trilogy, definitely the third one. Fury walked through hell to get those wins/draw.

I mean... Is it tragic? Is it worth the exceptional status? We all live a life and transition. Do i want to live to be 95 and do nuthin? Do i want to live to be 30 and go out in an act of bravery? Rhetorical questions but they seem to apply to Wilder. He will have something to show the grand kids! Ditto for Fury. Did they ruin, or did they make each other?

There is no question in my mind that the will, persaverence, presence of mind and skill displayed in that trilogy was worthy of boxing's highest accolades as far as great battles go. Fury with the skill and Wilder with the presence of mind to do what great punchers do: buying time to strike. Louis did it to Conn, Deontay almost did it to Fury. And that is why I abhore those who would denigrate Wilder's talents, no matter how limited they may be.

[Coverdale]

He says on an internet that would not exist with out the US, using a device, be it phone, computer, or game machine, invented in the US, with peripherals originating in the US, guided by code from the US, simplified by a user interface invented in the US, on a US owned forum.

Dollar to donuts in a t-shirt and/or jeans, driving a motor vehicle from a production run to a 9 - 5



It isn't Willow with head-in-ass syndrome brah.


Not Willow with an expressed bias here either.




This ***** over here acting like he's too good for Starbucks and McDonalds


Cultural backwater indeed.

How many rap super stars in England? How many rockstars in Germany? How many pop stars in Korea?

When is the last time this planet even produced a musical genre the rest of the world gave a **** that is not derivative of American music?

You know how many morris dancers are active in America? How about England? Nor I, but you're just as ignorant to your actual culture as us huh?

This post indicates the strength of your US-materialist mindset: i.e. the commercial appeal of something is indicative of its artistic value.

Americans like you know the price of everything and the value of nothing, which is part of the reason your political rulers have felt comfortable trampling over people in Latin America and the Middle East because of resources and the needs of your multinationals.

[Willow The Wisp]

With that type of game changing power; Deontay Wilder would be a serious challenge for any of the current heavyweights today. It doesn't matter who they are. He just has to change trainers.

In order to learn how to throw and land it again and who is more suited for that job other than one Mark Breland himself? However, if Deontay keeps Malik Scott on as his lead boxing coach and head trainer.

Then he isn't serious and lying to himself that he is hungry to become champion again. Likewise, this comeback will be just a waste of everyone's time; Including his own. He might as well should just stay retired then.

I agree. But time waits for no man, and Wilder, to my way of thinking, joins Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, Mike Tyson, Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe, Michael Moorer, Shannon Briggs, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko and Wladamir Klitschko as once impressive fighters who simply should not be fighting anymore.

They've all done whatever they were ever going to do in the ring; and that's got to be enough to satisfy them and their fans.

[Willow The Wisp]

Big Shout out to our board philosopher billeau2, and the erudite Marchegiano for keeping the imbeciles in check.
Too harsh?
Those guys don't have the wherewithal to notice that reliably planting a knockout blow on the kisser of a professional athlete who has trained daily since the age of 12 to avoid such a punch......is a skill...and one that pays millions and millions.

These "experts" on judging the quality of such an athlete. Lol. GTFOH



As to the sidebar discussion about the status and global influence of The United States of America; I'm inclined to recuse myself, except to point out that only about 4-6% of the enslaved Africans transported across the Atlantic during the transatlantic slave trade arrived in North America. The vast majority were sent to Brazil and the Caribbean. This means about 388,000 out of an estimated 12 million people were sent to North America. That, was a European thing. Not an American thing so much.


Beyond that stunning fact; I can only add electricity, flight, the phonograph, the computer, the internet, GPS, the lightbulb, digital visual interface, flight, refrigeration, the polio vaccine, pressure canning, data storage, the telegraph, anesthesia, steelmaking, asphalt, reinforced concrete, vulcanized rubber, the sewing machine, the cotton gin, the manufacturing assembly line, interplanetary space travel, the telephone, radio, the transistor, air conditioning, germ theory, oil drilling, oil refining, recorded sound, the steam turbine and, well.....most everything significant that separates modern man from **** neanderthalensis (Neanderthals) and **** heidelbergensis.
That and since the 1880's the single wealthy and powerful protector of the tenants of the Magna Carta.
Call us when you need us, you ungrateful wretches.

.....more or less.


Let's keep it light & breezy fellers.

[ELPacman]

Four. Four times. Flash knockdown in the first fight, a near death experience knockdown in the 12th round of the 1st, an imitation of Joe Frazier galloping in place after a flush right hand in the third fight, and a follow-up knockdown following the previous one.

A lot of people like to say Fury steamrolled Wilder, but they definitely shaved years off of each other. If not the entire trilogy, definitely the third one. Fury walked through hell to get those wins/draw.

Well, this is true and probably why Fury looked more crud pie than you would have expected for Ngannou and who knows, it could of assisted Usyk with his two wins. I'm not saying he didn't put on a master class, because he did, however no way was Fury the same after going 3 fights with Wilder where he was dropped multiple times.

[SouthpawRight]

Oh that's rich. American culture is a pisstake of Euro with some slavery, dispossessed Natives and Hispanic culture thrown in.

Fück Starbucks and McDonalds and every other brand

And the world is supposed to be forever grateful and bend the knee to American exceptionalism...sorry champ but go fück yourself!

America is an offshoot of British civilization that surpassed it

This post indicates the strength of your US-materialist mindset: i.e. the commercial appeal of something is indicative of its artistic value.

Americans like you know the price of everything and the value of nothing, which is part of the reason your political rulers have felt comfortable trampling over people in Latin America and the Middle East because of resources and the needs of your multinationals.

countless global powers throughout history have exploited foreign lands causing death destruct misery suffering

exploiting foreign countries isn't exclusive to their American Empire

America is more than the men who made a nation. We were here first. I'm more American than the ****ing "fore fathers" bro. My people been here thousands not hundred of years. Don't call me them, it's super mean and you hurt me. Even if you didn't know better now I'm sad for the ancestors.

GTFOH!

US civilization as you know it was made by those whities who moved across the ocean

[Derranged!]

He fought absolute trash, there’s never been a worse HW champ resume. And he only ever held one belt, won against a fat piece of trash Stiverne.

He’s one of the worst world champion HW’s in the history of boxing. The dude lost easily to Fury, Zhang, Parker the only 3 decent fighters he ever fought. Where was his power in those fights?

He can knockout trash and bums which isn’t impressive to me.

Valuev had a comparably bad resume. His best wins were gift decisions against Larry Donald and John Ruiz. So he should've never had a belt in the first place.