The skill of Deontay Wilder

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder has no business in the HOF

I'll be sure and bring that up. But the Olympic games medal, the Knockout ratio, and the sheer number of successful title defenses featuring ones against Ortiz and Fury are apt to outweigh your opinion.

[MalevolentBite]

Would not listen to his trainer or could not do it? I say he never set up a KO with his jab, never learned defense, and fogut many C and B fighters on the decline! With his grade A power that was enough for him to win. Power is tied to the quality of opposition! Who did he KO in the top 15 when he fought them? Nobody, that's who!

Without Max Kellerman in the situation, he could hit hard, but not that hard.

Ortiz was a top 10 heavyweight when he fought. Just saying.

[MalevolentBite]

And Gatti does?

Deontay was way better then Gatti. If Gatti is in then Deontay should be in. Facts !

[MulaKO]

I don't know... Charlie made a call and Deontay showed up.

Charlie Z is the man lol

[MulaKO]

Deontay was way better than Gatti. If Gatti is in then Deontay should be in. Facts !

No fughin way
Sorry

[billeau2]

Ortiz was a top 10 heavyweight when he fought. Just saying.

People just look at age instead of the fights. I believe the recent heavyweight fight with the most punches thrown was between Ruiz and Chris Areolla, Chris was "old" and called old for the fight despite this magnificent performance. Ortiz, likewise looked excellent against Wilder if people watch the fight...

[billeau2]

No fughin way
Sorry

Deontay is at least as good as Gatti was no? I mean point being that the HOF in boxing does not mean much... Would I discuss Wilder in the context of the real measure (ATG), no... But he has to be considered one of the hardest hitters. It is in the physics.

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder's power ruined Both Ortiz and Fury.
Fury and Ortiz Ruined Wilder, in 5 classic wars.
Nothing that any of them did following those wars is reflective of who they were during their respective primes.

The current era is 2015 - 2025

1. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine 23-0-0 (14)
2. Tyson Fury, England 34-2-1 (24)
3. Deontay Wilder, USA 43-4-1 (42)
4. Daniel Dubois, England 22-2-0 (21)
5. Anthony Joshua, England 28-4-0 (24)
6. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 36-3-0 (24)
7. Zhilei Zhang, China 27-3-1 (22)
8. Agit Kabayel, Turkey 26-0-0 (18)
9. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA 35-2-1 (22)
10.Luis Ortiz, Cuba 34-3-0 (29)
11.Dillian Whyte, England 31-3-0 (21)
12.Martin Bakole, Congo 21-2-1. (16)
13.Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine 64-5-0 (53)
14.Joe Joyce, England 16-4-0 (15)
15.Jarrell Miller, USA 26-1-2 (22)

[BKM-]

I give Wilder credit for knocking Fury down certainly. That said, Fury fought like a real idiot in the thrid fight and he walked into a few right hands. It gave us all a damn fun fight but Fury got damaged much more than needed by fighting the way that he did. Kudos for Wilder preparing as well as he did, he knew Fury was going to force him on the back foot, and Wilder had some success.

In the end though Wilder's lack of skill showed up against any good fighter he faced after that. He was just really, really bad.

Fury did not fight like an idiot in the third fight. Fury no longer had the legs he had in his prime so he had to close the distance and take the fight to Wilder. Which works however it's still very dangerous as eventually Wilder clipped him during this strategy, then clipped him again and was close to winning.

That btw also disproves the narrative that Wilder only has power in his punches if he takes a long running start. he did not load up on the punches he dropped Fury with again.

After that, Deontay was washed up. He lost his legs and confidence, and as they say power comes from the legs(technically) and he can no longer find his spots for attack and plant his feet.

[billeau2]

Wilder's power ruined Both Ortiz and Fury.
Fury and Ortiz Ruined Wilder, in 5 classic wars.
Nothing that any of them did following those wars is reflective of who they were during their respective primes.

The current era is 2015 - 2025

1. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine 23-0-0 (14)
2. Tyson Fury, England 34-2-1 (24)
3. Deontay Wilder, USA 43-4-1 (42)
4. Daniel Dubois, England 22-2-0 (21)
5. Anthony Joshua, England 28-4-0 (24)
6. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 36-3-0 (24)
7. Zhilei Zhang, China 27-3-1 (22)
8. Agit Kabayel, Turkey 26-0-0 (18)
9. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA 35-2-1 (22)
10.Luis Ortiz, Cuba 34-3-0 (29)
11.Dillian Whyte, England 31-3-0 (21)
12.Martin Bakole, Congo 21-2-1. (16)
13.Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine 64-5-0 (53)
14.Joe Joyce, England 16-4-0 (15)
15.Jarrell Miller, USA 26-1-2 (22)

Truly the bottom line.