The skill of Deontay Wilder

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #51
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    The skill of Deontay Wilder

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    • RingoKid
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      #52
      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99
      What many do not realize is AJ would have slaughtered Wilder easily at any time, ten years ago and today, same result, easy brutal one sided KO win for AJ. So bad that it would be career and leverage ending for Wilder, like Spinks vs. Tyson in 1988. Spinks wanted to comeback after that KO 1 loss to Mike but he had no leverage or value and never fought again. Some losses just totally destroy a fighter's value and leverage.
      In my alternate universe : Wilder one shotted an over confident AJ then windmilled him into the shadow realm.

      That could easily have happened in this one too.

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      • Bennyleonard99
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        #53
        Originally posted by RingoKid

        In my alternate universe : Wilder one shotted an over confident AJ then windmilled him into the shadow realm.

        That could easily have happened in this one too.
        If only Wilder, Haymon and Finkel had half your confidence.

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        • RingoKid
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          #54
          Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

          If only Wilder, Haymon and Finkel had half your confidence.
          If only Hearn did too.

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            #55
            Originally posted by billeau2

            I believe he won one of the alphabets. It really doesn't matter to me either way. To me the fact that he fought at the top and gave a good account it's the row of issue
            I find my mother to be a good rule of thumb in these situations. She's interested in boxing but never spends any time reading the unhinged outpourings on forums/social media from obsessives like daggum. If you were to ask her what she thought of Wilder's achievements she would probably describe them as 'amazing' and I think that generalises.

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            • Dorrian_Grey
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              #56
              He had a decent jab for a while under Breland and he was an excellent judge of distance and had a pretty intuitive feel for timing. Apart from that, it was mostly his athleticism and explosiveness which carried him through his career. That right hand really was something special though.

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              • Dr Z
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                #57
                Originally posted by billeau2
                If we compare a snake to a lion as predators isn't it pretty amazing that a snake can hunt using only their head no with no arms or legs?

                By the time fighters reach the upper echelons of professional prize fighting they have to have some basic skills if they are to advance. Even pure punchers have to be able to box a little bit or so conventional wisdom tells us. We have seen some one dimensional fighters who rose above the ranks. For example,Marciano, who had a very individualized skill sets given his size and reach.

                So even excellent hitters like shavers and Lyle could box and had skills. I could go on and on and search for heavyweights who made it to the top but you know what? None of them were as bad as Wilder!

                Wilder truly had no real boxing skills. So how could such a contender reach the status that Wilder achieved? Do I have to spell it out for you?

                That's how good Wilders punch is. So good that it allowed him with no real skills to speak of, to fight as a champion. I can't think of a precedent for his success. I think of fighters like Tua, and later versions of razor rud****, who became a one-handed fighter, none of them were as devastating a puncher as Wilder.

                So next time somebody is speaking about how bad Wilder was agree with them... And then ask them how a guy with no boxing skills, basically one hand, and no size could become a heavyweight champion. Because sometimes the logic is there all along if people are willing to look.



                His business manager was excellent as he capitalized on the USA market which was at an all time low tide and was fed very weak competition. When he finally fought top international competition he was exposed.

                His punch looked great as he fought no -hoopers and non tough journeymen. He has / hand good hand speed . The right " hook " was his best punch.


                He was a really weak jaw, jawed pipe legged fighter who was say the 3rd or 4th best in the world at his peak. He might have been in fixed fights.

                If the hall of fame has ANY standards, he never gets in.​

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RingoKid

                  If only Hearn did too.
                  Hearn did everything he could until he realized Haymon FInkel were just faking it. You got fooled by the Haymon Finkel Wilder fraudsters who ducked their way out of $100m payday vs AJ. Today team Wilder still have no desire to try to fight AJ because they know it's a guaranteed KO loss.

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                  • Willow The Wisp
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dr Z




                    His business manager was excellent as he capitalized on the USA market which was at an all time low tide and was fed very weak competition. When he finally fought top international competition he was exposed.

                    His punch looked great as he fought no -hoopers and non tough journeymen. He has / hand good hand speed . The right " hook " was his best punch.


                    He was a really weak jaw, jawed pipe legged fighter who was say the 3rd or 4th best in the world at his peak. He might have been in fixed fights.

                    If the hall of fame has ANY standards, he never gets in.​
                    The hall of fame IS the standard, and of course he gets in.
                    His level of competition is more or less on par with the other top nanes of his era. The pronouncements that there is some massive gap is myth.

                    People who know very little about a given subject hold very strong opinions on those subjects, nevertheless.

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                    • Dr Z
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                      The hall of fame IS the standard, and of course he gets in.
                      His level of competition is more or less on par with the other top nanes of his era. The pronouncements that there is some massive gap is myth.

                      People who know very little about a given subject hold very strong opinions on those subjects, nevertheless.
                      Wilder has no business in the HOF

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