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  • Nash out
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    #71
    TBE Mayweather was delighted that the Man in the Hat tampered with the scorecards to award Peterson a win over Khan, further evident that Khan won TBE Mayweather's own vote on who to fight next Khan or Maidana, and TBE Mayweather fought Maidana even though he lost the vote and Maidana was Khan's leftovers.

    TBE Mayweather knew that prime Khan had the one style that would beat him. TBE Mayweather is better than Khan, just like Ali was better than Norton, but Norton, in reality, beat Ali all 3 times, just as Khan would have beaten TBE Mayweather. Nash out - His Majesty

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    • dan_cov
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      #72
      Jaron Ennis is the best fighter in the world.
      The quality of boxing right now is pitiful with virtually every division but a few being painfully weak
      American boxing is on its ar53!
      Most of the supposed current elites are more products of a truly terrible era than being exceptional (Canelo and Inoue)
      Jermall Charlo has one of the best jabs in boxing

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      • Smash
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        #73
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        Most of the supposed current elites are more products of a truly terrible era than being exceptional (Canelo and Inoue)
        well canelo went into protection mode years ago and with his clauses etc but the jap is doing pretty good lol

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        • TheIronMike
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          #74
          Azumah Nelson beats JCC at 130

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          • billeau2
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            #75
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            lot of boxing fans don't know that clean punching is king

            and confuse any aggression for EFFECTIVE aggression. aggression that isn't landing means the other guy is scoring points for defense

            most viewers are inattentive and can't tell what landed or not

            ringside sometimes gets a bad angle where they can't see sht so throwing more to outwork the opponent becomes a viable strategy
            If you think about it it's virtually impossible to tell how a punch lands. Sometimes the effect gives a clue and that's a good thing. The hand is quicker than the eye always...

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            • HisExcellency
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              #76
              Blacks USED to dominate boxing not too long ago but it's a much more even playing field nowadays with Europeans, Latinos & Asians regularly beating blacks and vice-versa!

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              • SouthpawRight
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                #77
                Originally posted by billeau2

                If you think about it it's virtually impossible to tell how a punch lands. Sometimes the effect gives a clue and that's a good thing. The hand is quicker than the eye always...
                must take loads of boxing experience to know what landed or not and how good it connected

                Brings me back to Artur-Bivol 1

                Bivol beat Artur per the sizable majority of pro boxers who scored the fight

                Bivol beat Artur per the slight majority of people watching from television which offers the clearest angles of the strikes

                the judges who often had suboptimal views were impressed by Artur’s activity

                Artur’s corner saw that he was outboxed but Bivol low volume then instructed him that output will make people think that he controlled the rounds

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                • SouthpawRight
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by HisExcellency
                  Blacks USED to dominate boxing not too long ago but it's a much more even playing field nowadays with Europeans, Latinos & Asians regularly beating blacks and vice-versa!
                  As long as blacks are dedicated to fully develop skills

                  American Urban BBC fighters will always have a strong position in boxing

                  American BBCs are the most athletic ethnic group

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                  • HisExcellency
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                    As long as blacks are dedicated to fully develop skills

                    American Urban BBC fighters will always have a strong position in boxing

                    American BBCs are the most athletic ethnic group
                    African Americans definitely HELD a genetic advantage not too long ago due to being the offspring of the slave trade unfortunately (Michael Johnson did a great documentary about this). This holds true for almost all sport e.g. NFL, NBA, track & field etc. However, their dominance has dwindled largely due to race mixing plus the sedentary lifestyle of the West (hence why there's not many great White American boxers either as opposed to their hungrier Eastern Europeans counterparts). Gangster rap music going main$tream hasn't helped matters either.

                    In comparison, blacks in Africa have never dominated any sport although they can certainly hold their own in most sport e.g. soccer, basketball, boxing & MMA.

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                    • paulf
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                      #80
                      Castillo didn't beat Mayweather.

                      but Maidana did.

                      I've rewatched the first Maidana fight. Never found six rounds for Floyd.

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