Post Your Controversial Boxing Opinions

[billeau2]

I am only on the first page of this thread and virtually agree with every so-called controversial opinion. I think these are generally so far smart opinions!

Somebody's got to come up with a ****** opinion or this thread will be in vain. Okay I'll shoot myself in the foot....


The Paul Brothers are not particularly smart, they are scu m ba gs, The kind of guys my wife told me women know to avoid in high school and college.

Yet what they have done for fighters is unprecedented and nobody takes advantage of it. They have shown that even a dolt promoting themselves with marginal talent and even less intelligent can be a success. I wish fighters would take their lead!

[crimsonfalcon07]

In no particular order:

The lighter weight classes have a higher degree of skill than the heavier ones, and get disrespected for things like P4P and HOF by Westerners due to popularity, not skill level of competition.

Boxing judges and refs should be held accountable and face severe and clear penalties for egregious cards or calls. Scoring should be open, instant replays should be required.

The boxing organizations should rank each other's champions, and there should be a tournament involving each champion at the end of the year to crown an overall champ. Essentially, treat them like different conferences, but you're not the world champ until you've won the tournament.

Weigh ins should be same day, and weight cutting should be eliminated and penalized. Possibly have weights taken throughout camp, and fighters should not be allowed to be outside of, say 20 lbs of the limit at any point during camp. Encourage fighters to stay in shape and fight as close to their walking weight as possible.

No fighter should be called by a bum by anyone who doesn't have the stones to get in the ring themselves. Anyone willing to risk themselves in the ring, especially those who have to work other jobs and can't afford to be full time, deserves way more respect than they're given.

Any punch below the navel is a low blow, unless otherwise designated prior to the fight by the ref. This shouldn't be controversial, but apparently it is.

"To be the champ, you have to beat the champ" means that the champ retains in the event of a tie. It doesn't mean that you have to win by stoppage or clear decision. Also shouldn't be controversial, but is nevertheless.

Claressa Shields deserves respect, but also tempered by the of competition in her divisions, and should stay in her own lane and not compare herself to the men.

A fighter who turns down a fight against a higher level competitor to fight a lower ranked fighter shouldn't talk about being avoided.

[billeau2]

In no particular order:

The lighter weight classes have a higher degree of skill than the heavier ones, and get disrespected for things like P4P and HOF by Westerners due to popularity, not skill level of competition.

Boxing judges and refs should be held accountable and face severe and clear penalties for egregious cards or calls. Scoring should be open, instant replays should be required.

The boxing organizations should rank each other's champions, and there should be a tournament involving each champion at the end of the year to crown an overall champ. Essentially, treat them like different conferences, but you're not the world champ until you've won the tournament.

Weigh ins should be same day, and weight cutting should be eliminated and penalized. Possibly have weights taken throughout camp, and fighters should not be allowed to be outside of, say 20 lbs of the limit at any point during camp. Encourage fighters to stay in shape and fight as close to their walking weight as possible.

No fighter should be called by a bum by anyone who doesn't have the stones to get in the ring themselves. Anyone willing to risk themselves in the ring, especially those who have to work other jobs and can't afford to be full time, deserves way more respect than they're given.

Any punch below the navel is a low blow, unless otherwise designated prior to the fight by the ref. This shouldn't be controversial, but apparently it is.

"To be the champ, you have to beat the champ" means that the champ retains in the event of a tie. It doesn't mean that you have to win by stoppage or clear decision. Also shouldn't be controversial, but is nevertheless.

Claressa Shields deserves respect, but also tempered by the of competition in her divisions, and should stay in her own lane and not compare herself to the men.

A fighter who turns down a fight against a higher level competitor to fight a lower ranked fighter shouldn't talk about being avoided.

Again don't see anything unpopular here. I agree 100% with everything here personally. Very good points like a lot of points that I've been made here.

[WhatDisButtonDo]

The effects of PEDs on a fighter's abilities is overrated.

Heavy Disagree

[WhatDisButtonDo]

My controversial opinions are.

Top Rank/ESPN/HBO (later stages) commentators were and are terrible. Instead of fair commentating it legitimately sounds like propaganda.
Haney fight was boring with little action, but Ryan/Romero fight had less action technically and they said "it takes 12 rounds to figure it out".
PBC commentary can be harsh and critical without it coming across as personal. HBO/ESPN/Top Rank cards avoid this. Commentary at those companies are essentially an extension of the promotion. When it should not be.



https://www.renaissancerecovery.com/...ds/withdrawal/ This is for steroids but also applies to P.E.D.s in general

Ryan Garcia was clearly on P.E.D.s and so was Tyson Fury. People need to understand that a major symptom of cold cutting P.E.D.'s is hormonal/emotional imbalance and it can lead to depression, mental episodes.



If Turki doesn't say anything about Ryan/Teofimo for their racist comments I believe he is searching for a MAGA type of boxer or champion to promote that utilizes racism as a point to sell a fight. Except it's different, for 1. Black people don't pay to see people lose; we will just not watch you. For two, a lot of black fighters will view it as "oh he racist, i'm not about to feed his family".

[Dodger07]

YDKSAB posts probably headed my way

-Jeff Horn-Pacquiao wasn’t a robbery

-GGG-Canelo 1 wasn’t a robbery

-Wilder would’ve KO’d AJ in their primes

-Mikey Garcia would’ve beaten Lomachenko

-Toss up, but at 147 I’d slightly favor Crawford over Mayweather. Lower weights I’d clearly favor Floyd

[Elastic Recoilz]

If a fight goes to the cards and there's one judge's card which has an at least 6 points difference to the other two judges cards, his entry should be immediately dismissed and the fight should then be determined by the other two judges scores.

If a fighter continuously circles or runs around the ring without launching much offence he should be first issued with warnings before points are deducted. In severe cases the referee holds the right to disqualify a fighter if the previous punishments haven't changed his approach.

[Elastic Recoilz]

YDKSAB posts probably headed my way

-Jeff Horn-Pacquiao wasn’t a robbery

-GGG-Canelo 1 wasn’t a robbery

-Wilder would’ve KO’d AJ in their primes

-Mikey Garcia would’ve beaten Lomachenko

-Toss up, but at 147 I’d slightly favor Crawford over Mayweather. Lower weights I’d clearly favor Floyd

It 1000% was. Obviously Adelaid Byrd's 118-110 for Canelo was too wide and not a true reflection of the fight. Secondly, the judge Don Trella who turned in a 114-114 card actually awarded round 7 to Canelo despite it being Golovkin's best round in the entire fight where he landed the most punches of any round. Even Adelaid Byrd, who only gave 2 rounds to GGG awarded him that round. Had Don Trella correctly awarded round 7 to GGG, his card would be 115-113 in Golovkin's favour meaning he would've won a split decision over Canelo.

[TheProudLunatic]

YDKSAB posts probably headed my way

-Jeff Horn-Pacquiao wasn’t a robbery

-GGG-Canelo 1 wasn’t a robbery

-Wilder would’ve KO’d AJ in their primes

-Mikey Garcia would’ve beaten Lomachenko

-Toss up, but at 147 I’d slightly favor Crawford over Mayweather. Lower weights I’d clearly favor Floyd

The bold was an absolutely glorious robbery !!!!
It was a poor man's version of May vs Maidana 1
For some unknown reason, the judges scored punches to the forearms and shoulders
Gave mindless aggression too much credit
The only moves Horn and Maidana didn't employ was kicking and biting

The underlines are up for debate.
The least likely is Garcia vs Loma, imho

[TheProudLunatic]

It 1000% was. Obviously Adelaid Byrd's 118-110 for Canelo was too wide and not a true reflection of the fight. Secondly, the judge Don Trella who turned in a 114-114 card actually awarded round 7 to Canelo despite it being Golovkin's best round in the entire fight where he landed the most punches of any round. Even Adelaid Byrd, who only gave 2 rounds to GGG awarded him that round. Had Don Trella correctly awarded round 7 to GGG, his card would be 115-113 in Golovkin's favour meaning he would've won a split decision over Canelo.

The score was wide by a mile but the right guy won the fight.
If a person were to watch that fight without bias, you'd notice how ineffective GGG was.
His jab was a thing of beauty
Everything else was pure failure.
Did he even land a combo ?!?!?
A body blow ?!?!?

There were times when Nelo was on the ropes and made GGG look foolish.
Nelo showed him too much respect
Something he didn't do in the rematch.