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Last edited by hugh grant; 05-05-2025, 03:20 PM.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
Strongly disagree. His resume is excellent. These dudes are not bums. Maybe you just don’t know them because most are small guys from outside of America.I personally would never argue resumes, abilities, etc for fighters below 135. Not for nationalistic reasons but because like a lot of fans, I just don't get into these divisions.
Any fighter who is maybe 30 pounds or so heavier than my wife? Something just do not sit right.The Big Dunn likes this.
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Fought all of the best available fighters in whatever weightclass he is in and won most of the time by stoppage, I don't know what more anyone could ask of him. He is the best in boxing across all weightclasses as far as I am concerned.crimsonfalcon07 likes this.
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At one point he'd scored more 10-8 rounds than his opponents have scored rounds against him. That's a heck of a thing. No other active boxer has fought as high a percentage of champs and ranked opponents as Inoue. Possibly not any boxer in history. Second guessing from bigots who would never have the balls to step in the ring themselves not withstanding. It's starting to look like he's finding his limit at 122 though. Espinoza is a literal tall ask at 126, and his power didn't have as much of an effect as his accuracy in this fight, and he's now been dropped twice by left hooks.
The only reason some of his opponents haven't been talked about as P4P is that the media has been biased for decades against smaller fighters. Spence was "P4P" with 6 title defenses in one division, and his opponents earned I think maybe 7-8 titles between them. P4P, and honestly, the HOF, are popularity contests that are biased against the lighter fighters. Ignorance of the fighters doesn't mean they're bums. It just means the individual who calls them that is an ignorant cowardly bum itself.
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View PostAt one point he'd scored more 10-8 rounds than his opponents have scored rounds against him. That's a heck of a thing. No other active boxer has fought as high a percentage of champs and ranked opponents as Inoue. Possibly not any boxer in history. Second guessing from bigots who would never have the balls to step in the ring themselves not withstanding. It's starting to look like he's finding his limit at 122 though. Espinoza is a literal tall ask at 126, and his power didn't have as much of an effect as his accuracy in this fight, and he's now been dropped twice by left hooks.
The only reason some of his opponents haven't been talked about as P4P is that the media has been biased for decades against smaller fighters. Spence was "P4P" with 6 title defenses in one division, and his opponents earned I think maybe 7-8 titles between them. P4P, and honestly, the HOF, are popularity contests that are biased against the lighter fighters. Ignorance of the fighters doesn't mean they're bums. It just means the individual who calls them that is an ignorant cowardly bum itself.
It's true he's been dropped twice at 122, but I don't think he was hurt at all when Cardenas dropped him. Clean knockdown, but Inoue was immediately alert and communicating with his corner and got up intelligently defending himself. And it's also true that he's stopped 100% of his opposition at 122; 6 KOs in 6 fights, 5 against world title winning opposition, 4 against TBRB ranked opponents, 5 against Ring ranked opponents.
At 118 he was taken the 12 round distance and had his orbital bone cracked by Nonito Donaire. And yet he's held up at 122.
He was also taken the distance at 115 and 108, and yet he stopped both of his opponents at flyweight, all but one at bantamweight, and all of them at super bantamweight.
I don't think the Espinoza fight ever happens. Espinoza has already said he has trouble making 126, and he'd have to continue making the weight for at least another year and a half for an Inoue fight to come his way. We already know Inoue is lining up Akhmadaliev, Ball, and Nakatani next. I believe Espinoza will be well into his run at 130 by the time Inoue is done with those three.
Inoue already knocked out Fulton, but he's moving up to 130 to fight Foster anyway. They'll probably give his belt to Carrington, and I don't think Carrington troubles Inoue in any way.
Angelo Leo has looked really good lately, but he's not much bigger than Inoue and Fulton outclassed him when they met at 122. I do think Leo is the best fighter at featherweight right now, though.
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OK so...
He's not only fought everyone (willing to fight him) in his division.
But he always risks everything to make the fans happy.
He's knocked them all out.
He never lets money get in the way of who he's going to fight next.
He's never satisfied with his accomplishments.
He fights 4x a year, being more active than anyone in boxing now.
Plus he's in a division above his natural size.
And he said his goal is to conquer 126.
*As someone else said what more can you ask from him?
If you hate on him for that, you're just a loser trying to get attention.
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Originally posted by famicommander View Post
I don't think 126 will prove too much for him.
It's true he's been dropped twice at 122, but I don't think he was hurt at all when Cardenas dropped him. Clean knockdown, but Inoue was immediately alert and communicating with his corner and got up intelligently defending himself. And it's also true that he's stopped 100% of his opposition at 122; 6 KOs in 6 fights, 5 against world title winning opposition, 4 against TBRB ranked opponents, 5 against Ring ranked opponents.
At 118 he was taken the 12 round distance and had his orbital bone cracked by Nonito Donaire. And yet he's held up at 122.
He was also taken the distance at 115 and 108, and yet he stopped both of his opponents at flyweight, all but one at bantamweight, and all of them at super bantamweight.
I don't think the Espinoza fight ever happens. Espinoza has already said he has trouble making 126, and he'd have to continue making the weight for at least another year and a half for an Inoue fight to come his way. We already know Inoue is lining up Akhmadaliev, Ball, and Nakatani next. I believe Espinoza will be well into his run at 130 by the time Inoue is done with those three.
Inoue already knocked out Fulton, but he's moving up to 130 to fight Foster anyway. They'll probably give his belt to Carrington, and I don't think Carrington troubles Inoue in any way.
Angelo Leo has looked really good lately, but he's not much bigger than Inoue and Fulton outclassed him when they met at 122. I do think Leo is the best fighter at featherweight right now, though.Last edited by hugh grant; 05-05-2025, 06:03 PM.
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