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  • DeeMoney
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    #51
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg
    Shame he adopted that lazy way of fighting, him waiting and waiting and waiting and giving away rounds was a self destructive way of fighting that proved fatal to his career.
    I see a lot more fighters who have one punch power buying into this. Shame

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      #52
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

      My disagreement with your post is the part which suggests Wilder is the same one-punch wonder that he always was. I believe that he's lost a step, or maybe two, as evidenced by his recent fights after Fury. When he fought Fury, he was the same one-punch wonder that he was known to be as evidenced by him dropping Tyson even in defeat. In his fights vs Parker and Zhang, he looked nowhere near able to even properly throw, let alone land his signature right hand bomb. Helenius is less than the standard fighter that Deontay faced in his prime. Some of those guys actually outboxed him until he caught them. Robert came to lay down in the first round.
      I'm still not sure he's lost a lot... I mean to state that you have to assume that a prime Wilder could land on Parker. Could he? Who did he fight in his prime that was more elusive than Parker? Fury is awkward, but he was hittable. And he's not the only man to knock him down. Far from it. Even a non-boxer caught Fury.

      He may well be the same guy. He just looks terrible against decent fighters.

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        #53
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        I hope that he is not broke and needs the money because his skills have clearly diminished and he is on a physical decline.

        However. If he is serious about winning again; Them he would need to rehire his former boxing coach Mark Breland. In order to teach him how to throw that right hand of his.
        Breland couldn't teach Wilder anything when he was prime. He refused to learn because he trusted heavily in his big right. Now, in his current state of decline from battle and age, there's nothing short of a miracle that could bring back the Bronze Bomber to be even a viable contender.

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          #54
          Originally posted by VislorTurlough
          Who’s gonna tell him?
          You ever see that video where he confronts Charlie Z? I ain't gonna tell him!

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            #55
            Originally posted by Toffee

            I'm still not sure he's lost a lot... I mean to state that you have to assume that a prime Wilder could land on Parker. Could he? Who did he fight in his prime that was more elusive than Parker? Fury is awkward, but he was hittable. And he's not the only man to knock him down. Far from it. Even a non-boxer caught Fury.

            He may well be the same guy. He just looks terrible against decent fighters.
            Parker, elusive? Come on, man, Joe Joyce caught and stopped him, and he moves in slow-motion!

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              #56
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              If Deontay Wilder could still land that right hand of his. Then he would still be dangerous for any heavyweight opponent.
              And here-in lies the intrigue. Occasionally we hear of comeback stories. James Braddock was washed up, had arthritis... But learned to use his other hand, became a two handed fighter and made history.

              What makes Wilder intriguing is how he is successful. If he did not concentrate on getting better skills, but got his punch working again, he could, in theory, make things interesting. Imagine him fighting Usyk and losing every round then catching Usyk with a big shot...

              Unfortunately while this sounds good Wilder looks shot. He just does not seem able to throw his big punch. I don't see a way for him at this point... But the irony! If he could get his punch working again that is all he would really need to do.

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                #57
                Not gonna lie, I thought this was a bumped article from like 2019 when I saw this headline / quote.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                  Breland couldn't teach Wilder anything when he was prime. He refused to learn because he trusted heavily in his big right. Now, in his current state of decline from battle and age, there's nothing short of a miracle that could bring back the Bronze Bomber to be even a viable contender.
                  Yeah that brings up what is perhaps his real problem. He wants Yes men which destroyed him. If he really worked with someone who knew their shiat like Breland he could have probably done more.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    Yeah that brings up what is perhaps his real problem. He wants Yes men which destroyed him. If he really worked with someone who knew their shiat like Breland he could have probably done more.
                    One has to wonder what made him such a poor student. Was it pride, inability, or laziness?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      If Deontay Wilder could still land that right hand of his. Then he would still be dangerous for any heavyweight opponent.
                      That's pretty obvious, given that his big right was virtually the only weapon he had.

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