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  • #61
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

    Parker, elusive? Come on, man, Joe Joyce caught and stopped him, and he moves in slow-motion!
    But who did Wilder fight that was more elusive than Parker?

    The point is that he fought guys he could hit. Then when he started fighting guys that he couldn't hit, people proclaimed that he couldn't pull the trigger anymore. He could never pull the trigger against decent boxers.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post

      But who did Wilder fight that was more elusive than Parker?

      The point is that he fought guys he could hit. Then when he started fighting guys that he couldn't hit, people proclaimed that he couldn't pull the trigger anymore. He could never pull the trigger against decent boxers.
      People laughed at me here when I predicted Parker to win 12-0 against Wilder. That is exactly what happened.

      People were just overimpressed wiith Wilder stopping all Szpilkas in the world.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Toffee View Post
        For all the claims of "Fury took something from him" and "he's mellowed too much", he was still the same Wilder against Helenius.

        Judging him against Fury, Parker and Zhang and deciding he's lost something isn't a reasonable comparison. He can't box and he never could. Against decent level opponents he looked crap - what's changed?

        But he'll throw his bombs against this bloke. The same Wilder we always had.
        I'm not a wilder fan but I can't in good conscious say that Fury 2 and 3 didn't take something out of him. Those were the definition of career shortening fights. Absoloutley brutal.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

          Breland couldn't teach Wilder anything when he was prime. He refused to learn because he trusted heavily in his big right. Now, in his current state of decline from battle and age, there's nothing short of a miracle that could bring back the Bronze Bomber to be even a viable contender.
          The right hand was all he needed. Look how far it has taken him and he started the fight game late in his early 20s. However, I do agree with you that he will never be a contender again because Father Time has caught up to him.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            And here-in lies the intrigue. Occasionally we hear of comeback stories. James Braddock was washed up, had arthritis... But learned to use his other hand, became a two handed fighter and made history.

            What makes Wilder intriguing is how he is successful. If he did not concentrate on getting better skills, but got his punch working again, he could, in theory, make things interesting. Imagine him fighting Usyk and losing every round then catching Usyk with a big shot...

            Unfortunately while this sounds good Wilder looks shot. He just does not seem able to throw his big punch. I don't see a way for him at this point... But the irony! If he could get his punch working again that is all he would really need to do.
            The worst mistake of Wilder’s career was to scapegoat Mark Breland by letting him go. Without Mark Breland he would have never had the career he has had.

            It was Mark Breland who taught him how to throw that right hand of his. That equalizing right hand.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

              One has to wonder what made him such a poor student. Was it pride, inability, or laziness?
              I believe it’s because he started the game so late. Most fighters learn how to fight when they are at least 5 to 7 years old. While on the other hand, Deontay Wilder didn’t learn how to fight until he was 21 years old.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                Parker, elusive? Come on, man, Joe Joyce caught and stopped him, and he moves in slow-motion!
                There was a time Joyce landed and hurt everybody.

                Parker was Prime Juggernauts best win.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                  But who did Wilder fight that was more elusive than Parker?

                  The point is that he fought guys he could hit. Then when he started fighting guys that he couldn't hit, people proclaimed that he couldn't pull the trigger anymore. He could never pull the trigger against decent boxers.
                  I would argue that Fury did an excellent job of eluding prime Wilder's right hand with the exceptions of rounds 9 and 12 in their first fight. This, after nearly 3 years away, eating, drinking and drugging. In their second fight, Fury never got caught and dropped at all. Of course, Deontay caught Tyson twice in the 4th round of their third fight, but Fury still prevailed. To suggest that Parker fought the same version of Wilder that Fury fought is just wrong. The man was clearly a shell of his former self vs Joseph.
                  Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 05-06-2025, 04:41 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by RingoKid View Post

                    There was a time Joyce landed and hurt everybody.

                    Parker was Prime Juggernauts best win.
                    The main reason that Joyce landed on his opponents certainly had nothing to do with his speed. The fact is that he was willing to eat punches, which created openings for him to counter mistakenly emboldened foes.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      The worst mistake of Wilder’s career was to scapegoat Mark Breland by letting him go. Without Mark Breland he would have never had the career he has had.

                      It was Mark Breland who taught him how to throw that right hand of his. That equalizing right hand.
                      The irony is that Wilder is now the victim of the very thing Breland tried to save him from by throwing in the towel in the 2nd Fury fight. That 3rd fight KO loss was brutal and ruined him!
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