Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[djtmal]

"Thurman was the best WW at the time"

He was ranked #3 so objectively not the best at that tim.

I don't give a rat's azz what he was objectively ranked you do.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't have to elevate Thurman. He was the champ and he fought Manny like he was the champ.

Not like Spence who seemed dazed and confused against Crawford like he was mentally damaged.

He wasn’t the best ww.

He didn’t win the Super WBA title in the ring. Thurman was elevated to the title in 2015. Then in 2017 he got the regular belt only after Petersen retired.

Spence lost clearly to a better boxer. Just like Manny did to Floyd. Just not by ko.

[The Big Dunn]

Oh so Manny lapping Crawford in this poll is an excuse.

I don't need to make any excuses for Manny here son, you have to make them for Crawford.

I told you he better go back down to 147 he got more work to do.

You make too many excuses for Manny.

Winning the poll without any analysis is suspect.

[djtmal]

Additionally, you have these BS standards you apply to everyone other than Manny.

I don't have to make any excuses for Manny he won he lost. At ww he almost always gave up height reach to everybody.

Floyd ducked him when he was prime, and fought him scared when they finally did fight.

[djtmal]

You make excuses for Manny. That’s the problem.

You don’t apply things equally.

Look son Crawford lost this poll.

Go tell him to do some more work at ww and maybe he can get to Manny's level in the future. His career is still active.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't give a rat's azz what he was objectively ranked you do.

So in other words you don't care about reality Yeah I couldn't be less surprised by that.

You can lie and say Keith Thurman was the best WW in the world at the time but it won't change the fact he was #3, which over here in actual reality isn't the best.

Go and get a maths book and see if you can count to the number 3, spoiler alert - There are 2 numbers before it Thick cunt.

[djtmal]

If it’s the same ODH it’s the same Manny and the losses make his resume worse.



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Look son. If you argue that Oscar was shopworn when Manny beat the brakes off him ok but him being drained is no excuse.

Oscar was a veteran who knew better.

Only you would apply past prime losses because thats your only hope to save Crawford.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't have to make any excuses for Manny he won he lost. At ww he almost always gave up height reach to everybody.

Floyd ducked him when he was prime, and fought him scared when they finally did fight.

That is an excuse for losing.

Stay on topic. His resume includes losses where Crawford’s doesn’t. Crawford unified the division. Manny didn’t. Crawford beat the best ww, Manny didn’t.

[The Big Dunn]

Look son. If you argue that Oscar was shopworn when Manny beat the brakes off him ok but him being drained is no excuse.

Oscar was a veteran who knew better.

Only you would apply past prime losses because thats your only hope to save Crawford.

Stop playing dumb. Either apply the same standard to both or go suck Manny off somewhere else.

154 in 2007 isn’t the same as 147 over a year later, a weight not made in over 8 years.

If not, the past prime losses, including to Ugas,
should count because Manny’s name didn’t change. He was still Manny.

Of course I do because that is part of the full resume. I also count past prime wins. You don’t like to count the losses because it reduces the resume in total.

Crawford’s are better as I showed. Because they are, you lied that he wasn’t past prime.

[djtmal]

He wasn’t the best ww.

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Look son he beat beltholders Garcia/Porter both were in their prime, to become the guy @ 147.

He called out IllegalIvweather, but IllegalIvweather was either on vacation, retired, nursing his hands, or locked up.

Manny beat him and Crawford beat I don't know what you would call Spence he looked mentally unstable but I guess the rankings said he was #1 @ ww a mental midget