Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

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Even if pac and bud best the same opponents at WW, pac would've been considered to have had greater career at WW as he started at much lower weight.
Bud took 5 years to best Spence at WW, that win isn't great in hindsight when you can see spence has did nothing since and he's certainly not pf p no5 now, or even top 40 pfp. I can only bring myself to say it's a decent win

A win like that normally catapults the winner into srl like superstardom.

Can't really say that about Crawford beating Spence.

His next fight he was back to square one.

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Hmm. Manny dropped 200k in sales from Bradley to Vargas. So who was responsible for the 200k?

How many ppv sales did he have with Horn? Oh yeah, that’s right, it had to be on ESPN because no one would buy such a garbage fight.

Lol. You went from comparing Manny/Thurman Crawford/Spence ppv to what exactly

Roughly 200k separated these two fights, but in Crawford's next fight he barely clipped 100k as the headliner.

600k son who is responsible that's a pretty big deficit

[The Big Dunn]

Just keep it a buck. Canelo don't need Crawford. Canelo has waay more options.
You comparing a guy who doesn't fight in Crawford to a guy who fights everybody in Manny. At ww Manny could head a card and do great same with Canelo now, whereas Crawford can only headline in his hometown.

Crawford is in the same vein as past fighters like his boy Ward, Bhop, Winky, even Pernell. Guys who are technically good to their own detriment. That's not a bad thing it's just how it is. Floyd was the same way until he came up with that Money May persona.

Crawford is moving up yet again to fight another top 5 p4p champion to try and win a 4th unified division title ( assuming Canelo beats Scrull and unifies).

As shown, Manny doesn’t fight everyone. Stop exaggerating.

Manny Is more popular than Crawford, no doubt.

They are not too good that it’s a detriment. It is the popular name guys do whatever they can to avoid them. Well not Sweet Pea that was a different era.

Manny had a large following of his countrymen to start then gained fans. Cant fault him for that in any way.

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Spence has done nothing for less time than Thurman did after he lost to Manny. So the Thurman win can’t be that great either, if we are using your same standard to evaluate both l.

Lol. Spence has done absolutely nothing

[djtmal]

Spence resume only consists of gun shy Kell Brook.

I give him Porter and Danny

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Telling the truth by showing the facts isn’t sh-tting on Manny, you over sensitive knob gobbling stan.

Lol. He didn't show any facts.

He went off what your boy Floyd was pumping him up to say.

[The Big Dunn]

Lol. Spence has done absolutely nothing

Like I said, Thurman did absolutely nothing after losing to Manny for longer than Spence has currently done nothing since the loss to Crawford.

Using the same standard to analyze both, that means the Thurman win should be judged the same way as you two say the Spence win should be judged.

No more. No less.

[The Big Dunn]

Lol. He didn't show any facts.

He went off what your boy Floyd was pumping him up to say.

I was speaking about me.

Crawford didn’t indicate he spoke to Floyd.

What he said was accurate. Since Cotto- cw- his only stoppage was a TKO over Matthysse. Unless I missed a ko win.

[djtmal]

Crawford is moving up yet again to fight another top 5 p4p champion to try and win a 4th unified division title ( assuming Canelo beats Scrull and unifies).

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Canelo is over the hill and Crawford is looking to cherrypick nothing more nothing less. This isn't prime p4p boxing.

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Crawford didn’t indicate he spoke to Floyd.

What he said was accurate. Since Cotto- cw- his only stoppage was a TKO over Matthysse. Unless I missed a ko win.

What he said was he didn't consider Manny for anything because he was a suspected ped user, put Floyd's name in it so you know who was talking to who, he has no proof of Manny doing anything illegal

Meanwhile Floyd was the masking agent user.