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Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

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  • #81
    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    Gtfoh he was shopworn when most of those losses came he was 62 total fights by the time illegalivweather felt the risk was below 30%.

    I guess he was in his prime when he lost to Ugas as well huh.
    stop making excuses for losses and ducking.

    He had 62 fights because he kept ducking Floyd to fight lesser opponents. JMM 4 was a Floyd duck for less money than offered. Horn a cherry pick that went wrong..

    I didn’t count the Ugas loss. That said, it is part of his we resume.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-21-2025, 04:33 AM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



      Crawford needs no more fights at 147. His resume there is solid.
      The numbers dont support that bruh

      Pacquiao 93.75

      Crawford 6.25​

      Last edited by djtmal; 04-21-2025, 04:32 AM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by djtmal View Post

        No he wasn't
        Of course he was. He was over 35 for all of those fights.

        He just didn’t lose like Manny did so you pretend he was prime.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



          When Manny wins past prime you want him given extra credit. But you don’t want the losses to count.

          Well see that's why beating guys in their prime is the ultimate measuring stick.

          Ask your boy Floyd about not getting much credit for beating shopworn fighters

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          • #85
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            The numbers dont support that bruh

            Pacquiao 93.75

            Crawford 6.25​
            I don’t know what this means.

            Crawford- unified 147. Undefeated at 147. Beat the best 147lb boxer other than himself.

            Manny-5 losses at ww. Never unified. Lost to the best 147lb boxer other than himself.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by djtmal View Post

              Well see that's why beating guys in their prime is the ultimate measuring stick.

              Ask your boy Floyd about not getting much credit for beating shopworn fighters
              No it’s simply wins and losses. This thread is about Crawford and Manny’s resume. Not Floyd. Stay on topic.

              Stop trying to gerrymander Manny’s resume to try and minimize losses.

              However, if we go by past prime, that negates Manny’s ww wins over ODH, Shane, Broner and Matthysse.

              As long as we apply the same standards to every boxer cool. Not the biased way you do.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                I don’t know what this means.

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                It means Crawford's resume is thin in comparison to Manny's and you putting on the cape and utility belt isn't going to save him

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  No it’s simply wins and losses. .
                  So Manny losing to Ugas in his final fight after 70+ fights counts against him.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    I don’t know what this means.

                    Crawford- unified 147. Undefeated at 147. Beat the best 147lb boxer other than himself.

                    Manny-5 losses at ww. Never unified. Lost to the best 147lb boxer other than himself.

                    Pacquiao 93.75

                    Crawford 6.25​​

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      It means Crawford's resume is thin in comparison to Manny's and you putting on the cape and utility belt isn't going to save him
                      Just posting numbers without context means nothing.

                      What is the context of these numbers?

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