Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[djtmal]

No he wasn’t. He was ranked 3rd.

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Yeah so tf what.

Thurman was the best guy out there. Owned two of the belts.

He may have been stripped of one but never lost either in the ring.

He called IllegalIvweather out but IllegalIvweather was either on vacation or retired.

[The Big Dunn]

His name didn't change it was still Oscar de la Hoya and Manny beat the brakes off him a year after Floyd's pops thought Oscar beat Floyd

Look dude you’re playing dumb to divert from the thread topic because Manny didn’t unify nor did he beat the best ww like Crawford did.

154 in 2007 isn’t the same as 147 over a year later, a weight not made in over 8 years.

If not, the past prime losses, including to Ugas,
should count because Manny’s name didn’t change. He was still Manny.

[djtmal]

I am fine so long as we do this kind of analysis for all opponents for each win and loss at ww

I don't make excuses for these cats. You do.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah so tf what.

Thurman was the best guy out there. Owned two of the belts.

He may have been stripped of one but never lost either in the ring.

He called IllegalIvweather out but IllegalIvweather was either on vacation or retired.

"Thurman was the best WW at the time"

He was ranked #3 so objectively not the best at that time.

"So what"



So what? What do you mean, so what?

So he was the THIRD best, not THE best. That's so what you retard.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah so tf what.

Thurman was the best guy out there. Owned two of the belts.

He may have been stripped of one but never lost either in the ring.

He called IllegalIvweather out but IllegalIvweather was either on vacation or retired.

No he wasn’t. Stop elevating him just to give Manny an advantage.

He fought 2x in 3 years- MD over Lopez before the SD loss to Manny. Then he didn’t fight for 3 years after.

You just got finished posting that the Spence win was diminished because he hasn’t done anything after. It hasn’t been 2 years yet since the fight.

Thurman did nothing for 3 years. So using your logic, the Thurman win is no big deal.

[djtmal]

Look dude you’re playing dumb to divert from the thread topic because Manny didn’t unify nor did he beat the best ww like Crawford did.

I am not diverting from s**t.

I already stated why Manny Pacquaio had a better career than Bud Crawford at welterweight, and your little bs rhethoric isn't changing that.

You just can't accept that Bud lost the poll by a landslide, nobody has time to analyze your garbage talking points

[The Big Dunn]

I don't make excuses for these cats. You do.

You make excuses for Manny. That’s the problem.

You don’t apply things equally.

[The Big Dunn]

I am not diverting from s**t.

I already stated why Manny Pacquaio had a better career than Bud Crawford at welterweight, and your little bs rhethoric isn't changing that.

No you didn’t. You pointed to votes in the poll.

You haven’t provided any evidence.

Additionally, you have these BS standards you apply to everyone other than Manny.

If it’s the same ODH it’s the same Manny and the losses make his resume worse.

154 in 2007 isn’t the same as 147 over a year later, a weight not made in over 8 years.

If not, the past prime losses, including to Ugas,
should count because Manny’s name didn’t change. He was still Manny.

Period.

[djtmal]

No he wasn’t. Stop elevating him just to give Manny an advantage.

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I don't have to elevate Thurman. He was the unified champ and he fought Manny like he was the champ.

Not like Spence who seemed dazed and confused against Crawford like he was mentally damaged.

[djtmal]

You make excuses for Manny. That’s the problem.

You don’t apply things equally.

Oh so Manny lapping Crawford in this poll is an excuse.

I don't need to make any excuses for Manny here son, you have to make them for Crawford.

I told you he better go back down to 147 he got more work to do.