Why did people find Wilder more intimidating than AJ ?

[Toffee]

Same reason that people really thought Tyson would beat Holyfield or Lewis.

Big talk, slightly unhinged, wild statements.

For some reason people don't realise they're watching boxing, a sport.

I didn't think fighters feared Wilder. Every top fighter wanted him. Fury was prepared to come off the couch to fight him.

[Toffee]

Joshua was always a more cautious, more technical, more cerebral fighter who was protecting obvious vulnerabilities. Ultimately he beat better competition than Wilder ever did, but he never had that aura of absolute destructive confidence that Wilder did before being humbled.

Joshua absolutely had that kind of aura when he was fighting at a lower level. What he was doing to guys was at times scary.

[Marchegiano]

Every time I speak to it y'all cry at me like I'm making **** up. Look it TF up if you don't believe me.


America was founded before the English accent was invented. The modern English accent was invented specifically to make Englishmen sound more gentle and soft.

So he has that deficit out of the gate. Then there is the cultural difference between the southern US and the UK. When Wilder said he wanted a body, he wasn't speaking to European fans to get more of them was he? They still cry about it.


A dude like Chris Eubank is like a dated English cliche. Love him, he's a badass, AJ is too, but ya know what. ... ... That gentleman **** works. Y'all real gentle like and compare that to ol redneck preacher's son from Bama putting fool straight into a seizure. Yeah dude, Wilder won that hard.

[QueensburyRules]

[QUOTE=crimsonfalcon07;n32448664]Say what you will of AJ and Wilder, I have enjoyed watching them fight, and they both got started relatively late, AJ at age 18, and Wilder at 20. Both medaled at the Olympics, AJ gold with 5 years in the sport, Wilder bronze after 3 years in the sport, and each became world champion and defended their portion of the title picture. I seriously doubt anyone crapping on either guy has come anywhere near the accomplishments of either guy. I also seriously doubt anyone crapping on the power of either guy would be willing to take even one shot, with pads, from either one.

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- - Deyonce was Haymon's go to boy where they used the l'l floydy TBA short notice opponents given 2-3 weeks to train.

Deyonce and Blubber are two of the biggest disgraced contemporaries who finally were forced to fight each other for little more than Peanuts while AJ cleaned out the heavy division while clearing a rare fortune in spite of his spare number of fights.

AJ's problem was he never had a decent trainer, so eventually suffered his losses, but his physical assets greatly exceeded Deyonce and Blubber and he ain't shy to fight like they was.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Same reason that people really thought Tyson would beat Holyfield or Lewis.

Big talk, slightly unhinged, wild statements.

For some reason people don't realise they're watching boxing, a sport.

I didn't think fighters feared Wilder. Every top fighter wanted him. Fury was prepared to come off the couch to fight him.

The big majority here expected 38 old Wilder to Ko Parker.

They laghed at me when I said it was very unlikely to happen.

People were overimpressed with Wilder stopping all Szpilkas in the world.

[champion4ever]

A question, for all Wilder haters. What happens when he becomes heavyweight champion again? What would you haters have to say about him then?

Remember that George Foreman was 45 years old when he won The heavyweight championship again.

[JakeTheBoxer]

A question, for all Wilder haters. What happens when he becomes heavyweight champion again? What would you haters have to say about him then?

Remember that George Foreman was 45 years old when he won The heavyweight championship again.

He is 40. Lost every round to Parker, Got stopped with Zhang, who is now shot himself.

If you still have some hopes about him, good luck.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Same reason that people really thought Tyson would beat Holyfield or Lewis.

Big talk, slightly unhinged, wild statements.

For some reason people don't realise they're watching boxing, a sport.

I didn't think fighters feared Wilder. Every top fighter wanted him. Fury was prepared to come off the couch to fight him.

Deontay Wilder was an intimidating Heavyweight fighter 'But not in the same way as Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston, or George Foreman. Those fighter's aura of intimidation, extended with them both inside and outside the boxing ring. We only have to look back at confrontations between Toney Bellew and Deontay Wilder to see fighters were not intimidated by him outside the ring'.

I have always thought that both Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury himself especially 'Promoted themselves as intimidating fighters outside the ring. But they appeared to be like Wrestlers with their demeanour, theatrical'. Which gave them a lot of stage presents, and aided them being stars in this particular era of Heavyweight boxing'.

Tyson Fury used the image of his gypsy fighting culture to promote himself as some sort of tough guy 'But I highly doubt he has ever had a fight outside the ring in his life. If this was the case? Surely there would be stories, on a street level of Fury's confrontations'. This is not disrespect to Tyson Fury, it is just a known fact that from grass roots level he was focused on boxing, and pretty much wrapped in cotton wool protected by a caring family'.

Note: Since the conclusion of the Kiltschko era, or in recent times 'David Haye, Derek Chisora and Dillian Whyte. I would highlight those two fighters as competitors that opponents would measured themselves against outside of the ring. Haye was quite audacious whenever he was attacked, whereas Derek Chisora and Dillian Whyte were very dangerous'.

David Haye once upon a time, during the build up to Dillian Whyte vs Anthony Joshua stated 'That if this was a straightener outside the ring, I think Whyte would win. But it is not, so I am backing Anthony Joshua'.

To conclude: I think through the television, the perception of fighters can sometimes be amplified i.e. How they are promoting themselves 'Fighters like Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury have a lot of stage presents in front of the cameras. But in physical reality? I have never perceived ether Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury as overall intimating Heavyweight fighter's in the same category as Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston or George Foreman'.

I think people must watch the actions and behaviour of fighters 'Around their nearest competition. Nobody has ever really stepped to Anthony Joshua even during his most vulnerable or challenging times. Daniel Dubois had a little go, he seems to of been the only fighter to take his chances' etc.

[QueensburyRules]

A question, for all Wilder haters. What happens when he becomes heavyweight champion again? What would you haters have to say about him then?

Remember that George Foreman was 45 years old when he won The heavyweight championship again.

- - What happens if U busted for being an organ grinder monkey?

Deyonce was Al Haymon's TBA short notice fighter giving opponents 2-3 weeks to train, a scam crooks like l'l floydy who created the scam.

[gauze]

charlie zelenoff fought wilder so he can't be that intimidating. stop making threads