Why did people find Wilder more intimidating than AJ ?

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  • kafkod
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    #11
    Luis Ortiz didn't find Wilder more intimidating than AJ.

    Ortiz turned down $7miilion to fight AJ and fought Wilder for 500k

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #12
      Joshua can pass for an all American athlete

      Deontay can pass for a street guy

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      • Boxing 112
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        #13
        Originally posted by daggum
        because propaganda and marketing is a real thing. joshua ko'd 6 of 12 top 10 opponents(ring) for a 50% knockout ratio while wilder ko'd 2 of 8 for a 25% knockout ratio. knocking over cans is not impressive but the way they marketed him you had people saying if wilder lands 1 punch he will win
        Funny how Tyson knocking out cans made him fearsome and the words "prime tyson" being over used, but Wilder or these other modern era fighters knocking out 20 cans won't get the same hype and instead dissed

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing 112

          Funny how Tyson knocking out cans made him fearsome and the words "prime tyson" being over used, but Wilder or these other modern era fighters knocking out 20 cans won't get the same hype and instead dissed
          Tyson vs world titlists:
          W vs Alfonso Ratliff TKO 2
          W vs Trevor Berbick TKO 2
          W vs James Smith UD 12
          W vs Pinklon Thomas TKO 6
          W vs Tony Tucker UD 12
          W vs Larry Holmes KO 4
          W vs Tony Tubbs TKO 2
          W vs Michael Spinks KO 1
          W vs Frank Bruno TKO 5
          L vs Buster Douglas KO 10
          W vs Frank Bruno TKO 3
          W vs Bruce Seldon TKO 1
          L vs Evander Holyfield TKO 11
          L vs Evander Holyfield DQ 3
          L vs Lennox Lewis KO 8

          Record: 11-4

          Wilder vs world titlists:
          W vs Siarhei Liakhovich KO 1
          W vs Bermane Stiverne UD 12
          W vs Bermane Stiverne KO 1
          D vs Tyson Fury SD 12
          L vs Tyson Fury TKO 7
          L vs Tyson Fury KO 11
          L vs Joseph Parker UD 12

          Record: 3-3-1

          C'mon.

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          • PBR Streetgang
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            #15
            The highlight reel KOs, come from behind KOs, etc. Sure the resume is weak...we can argue how good (or old) Ortiz was but Wilder was also getting outboxed by guys who were on the extreme fringe of contender status (Washington, Spilzka, etc).

            I was no fan of Wilder but I do acknowledge that he had some freakish power. Even his opponents have acknowledged that.

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            • daggum
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              #16
              Originally posted by Boxing 112

              Funny how Tyson knocking out cans made him fearsome and the words "prime tyson" being over used, but Wilder or these other modern era fighters knocking out 20 cans won't get the same hype and instead dissed
              against top 10 ring opponents

              tyson-53% 8 out of 15

              wilder-25% 2 out of 8

              tyson was clearly better so like i said marketing and propaganda if it could get you to believe they were anywhere near the same level, not to mention tyson ko'd spinks who was the lineal champ at the time. wilder never beat any of the top guys​

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              • daggum
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                #17
                Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
                The highlight reel KOs, come from behind KOs, etc. Sure the resume is weak...we can argue how good (or old) Ortiz was but Wilder was also getting outboxed by guys who were on the extreme fringe of contender status (Washington, Spilzka, etc).

                I was no fan of Wilder but I do acknowledge that he had some freakish power. Even his opponents have acknowledged that.
                yeah just ask malik scott. that doesnt give you any pause? knowing guys clearly took dives against him not to mention almost everyone he fought was under the pbc banner, when he left pbc he couldnt do diddly squat. they were all part of the hype train, maybe some of them even believed it. i can imagine if you get ko'd saying wow he hits super hard is a part of saving face

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                  #18
                  Wilder's one punch KO power was pretty intimidating the way he was knocking guys out.

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                  • daggum
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KingTito
                    Wilder's one punch KO power was pretty intimidating the way he was knocking guys out.
                    what kind of guys would that be? look at joshua vs ngannau. joshua must be the biggest puncher in boxing history...or he was fighting a guy he knew he could unleash on with impunity. same thing with the scrubs wilder was fighting. its like a minor leauge baseball player who hit 100 home runs in a season. yeah he could have potential...then he goes to the big leagues and hits 2. i think its safe to say his power didnt really translate right? we know wilders power did not translate but you still have people looking at his minor league numbers which lets be honest thats what he was essentially fighting with those scrubs instead of his big league numbers
                    Last edited by daggum; 03-31-2025, 09:25 PM.

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                    • WillieWild114
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                      Joshua can pass for an all American athlete

                      Deontay can pass for a street guy
                      Why you say that ?

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