TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[hugh grant]

No one he fought is a higher ATG than Floyd.







Manny didnt.earn a rematch. He fought scared and weak.

Many think pac, dlh and Nel o is greater than floyd, and im sure some believe floyd is greater. But between them all, they've all done things the other might not have done.

Floyd's always had advantages why don't pac deserve rematch? Why not best pac twice, nobodies did that before? Floyd fans think floyd beats pac 3 out of 3 fimes, so why not best pac two times at the very least, and then we can discuss possibility floyd could win 3 out of 3? No, actually beat pac twice and I'll give floyd the 3rd win for free.

Some think pac and dlh best floyd, but even if nobody thought they won, why does floyd only rematch bums who he thinks he lost to? That's like admission floyd thinks he lost but thinks he could play it back and win! Maybe floyd thinks dl h and pac would be too much in rematch?
Why don't floyd beat someone twice just for the heck of it to show that he can!? Always excuses why he didn't fight people, and not just pac. But to make things easier for floyd fans im just discussing pac.

[djtmal]

We know ODH was the cash cow. We also know his biggest event was Trinidad, the 2nd biggest draw, at 1.5 mil.

Floyd ODH did 5-600k more. Floyd did the work on 24/7.

I get you’re a pole smoker and a hater but just stop.

Answer the question what was Floyd ppv averaging prior to Oscar

You said he did 2million ppv buys vs Oscar, so what was his average prior to that

[Haka]

So why did you say he did have those pre 2005 when he doesn't?

You aren't seeming to grasp that fighters "in ring" weights are 99% of the time recorded by the broadcaster. Name a fighter of the modern era, their "in ring" weights are recorded by the broadcaster on the day like all of those Floyd in ring weights were and released on the broadcast pre fight.





That's a California protocol and also relatively new.




That's something called a contract, that Maidana signed pre fight. In regards to the gloves.






You mean GO UP to 155 DUMBASS.

Your argument is backwards. He's more likely to be heavier in that scenario not lighter you thick idiot

1.5 has been paid last minute by floyd to have Maidana (Kotelnik leftover) not wear Cleto Reyes, lots of manipulation behind the scenes, so I don't put much value on those rumour weights that are unproven and might as well been filled in on a form by some guy like Ellerbe. As far as 30 day weigh in go; Canelo weighed in 168lbs on those weigh ins which is below the walk around weight of Crawford, meaning those 30 day cut off points are just rehearsals for the actual weight cut. Floyd never looked 15 lbs lighter in torso size than a 165 Maidana, if anything bigger, but maybe he has chicken legs that are a quarter the size of Maidana’s leg to make up for, although that seems unlikely. A 15 lbs difference would look more like the discrepancy in size like Loma - Haney were the size difference was optically staggeringly different.

[IronDanHamza]

1.5 has been paid last minute by floyd to have Maidana (Kotelnik leftover) not wear Cleto Reyes,

Because the commission didn't pass Maidana's gloves on inspection and started a whole fiasco, that's why. Maidana accepted it.

Totally irrelevant to the recorded in ring weights you are baffling claiming don't exist when they objectively do.

so I don't put much value on those rumour weights that are unproven and might as well been filled in on a form by some guy like Ellerbe.

I don't know how I can make it easier to sink into your thick retarded skull but they are not "rumours" they are RECORDED in right weights by the broadcaster, in this case HBO and Showtime.

As far as 30 day weigh in go; Canelo weighed in 168lbs on those weigh ins which is below the walk around weight of Crawford, meaning those 30 day cut off points are just rehearsals for the actual weight cut.

Yes, 168, that's what he walked around roughly when he was a Jr MW.

This rehearsal crap again What the fuck is a "rehearsal" for the actual weight cut you dumb cunt? Do you know how painfully STUPID even the idea of that is? What do you even mean by it?

They weigh in 30 days before, OFFICIALLY by the WBC to make sure they're at a healthy point. Not to "rehearse" a weight cut you idiot.

Floyd never looked 15 lbs lighter in torso size than a 165 Maidana, if anything bigger, but maybe he has chicken legs that are a quarter the size of Maidanaâs leg to make up for, although that seems unlikely. A 15 lbs difference would look more like the discrepancy in size like Loma - Haney were the size difference was optically staggeringly different.

You can deny facts if you want to, Floyd was 15 lbs lighter than Madiana in the ring and those weights are recorded by Showtime.

[TheProudLunatic]

Horn is nobody

B or C fighter would have to accept every single Mayweather term.

Manny was every bit the attraction Floyd was in 2009 and apparently aware of it.

Everybody, including YOU, would have accepted
You hero was too weak inside
Many was a very good B side.
Forever trapped beneath May's shadow.

[Haka]

Because the commission didn't pass Maidana's gloves on inspection and started a whole fiasco, that's why. Maidana accepted it.

Totally irrelevant to the recorded in ring weights you are baffling claiming don't exist when they objectively do.




I don't know how I can make it easier to sink into your thick retarded skull but they are not "rumours" they are RECORDED in right weights by the broadcaster, in this case HBO and Showtime.




Yes, 168, that's what he walked around roughly when he was a Jr MW.

This rehearsal crap again What the fuck is a "rehearsal" for the actual weight cut you dumb cunt? Do you know how painfully STUPID even the idea of that is? What do you even mean by it?

They weigh in 30 days before, OFFICIALLY by the WBC to make sure they're at a healthy point. Not to "rehearse" a weight cut you idiot.




You can deny facts if you want to, Floyd was 15 lbs lighter than Madiana in the ring and those weights are recorded by Showtime.

Correct there are no official sanctioned weights, only rumours. Although it is a minor detail for still getting ragdolled around the ring for most of the 12 rounds in fight 1 and getting a gift. The second fight was closer but was tainted based on point deduction that should have at least been scored once the other way around.

[djtmal]

Everybody, including YOU, would have accepted

We know what you Floyd groupies would do

You don't know what I would do

[IronDanHamza]

Correct there are no official sanctioned weights, only rumours.

So, what are you referring to pre 2005? You said "Floyd has no in ring weights from 2005 onward", what weights are you referring to pre 2005?

If you are dismissing the broadcaster in ring weights then barely any fighter in history has in ring weights.

Manny Pacquaio for example has zero. So maybe Pacquaio was 180 lbs in the ring? We don't have any in ring weights to prove otherwise, do we?

Although it is a minor detail for still getting ragdolled around the ring for most of the 12 rounds in fight 1 and getting a gift. The second fight was closer but was tainted based on point deduction that should have at least been scored once the other way around.

Don't even have the first clue what retarded garble this is supposed to be but if you're referring to the Maidana fights then Floyd beat him twice.

[TheProudLunatic]

We know what you Floyd groupies would do

You don't know what I would do

Ok, then, tell us.
You keep avoiding this !!!!!!!!

[The Big Dunn]

Many think pac, dlh and Nel o is greater than floyd, and im sure some believe floyd is greater. But between them all, they've all done things the other might not have done.

Floyd's always had advantages why don't pac deserve rematch? Why not best pac twice, nobodies did that before? Floyd fans think floyd beats pac 3 out of 3 fimes, so why not best pac two times at the very least, and then we can discuss possibility floyd could win 3 out of 3? No, actually beat pac twice and I'll give floyd the 3rd win for free.

Some think pac and dlh best floyd, but even if nobody thought they won, why does floyd only rematch bums who he thinks he lost to? That's like admission floyd thinks he lost but thinks he could play it back and win! Maybe floyd thinks dl h and pac would be too much in rematch?
Why don't floyd beat someone twice just for the heck of it to show that he can!? Always excuses why he didn't fight people, and not just pac. But to make things easier for floyd fans im just discussing pac.

Just the unreasonable and biased fans of those boxers think that.

Your 2nd paragraph makes no sense. Manny didn’t earn a rematch with his putrid performance.

Rematches are usually given to opponents who win or have a close fight. He beat them both clear enough to not need a rematch.

Why would he need to do that? Soon as he.dis , losers like you would claim he’s doing so to get an easy win.

Stop pretending Manny gave rematches for this reason. Other than Barrera years later, he gave rematches to guys he lost to or drew.