TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[The Big Dunn]

There's more than enough proof here to label him extremely suspect

Just not enough to label him guilty.

Seems to be the same standard you and others are upset about when Crawford says this about Manny, which is the thread topic.

[djtmal]

The fight wasn’t inconclusive. It was a a wide win.

Manny being out of his prime is on him as a man.

Let's see he was 65 total fights in, 6 losses had been kod 3x when Floyd finally did stop making excuses.

I'd say Manny was shopworn.

The fight was inconclusive. All Floyd did was run and hold for 12 rounds. Didn't land many clean punches and definitely didn't land any eye catching combinations on a shopworn Manny. Definitely in survival mode even his pops told him he was scared

Fight should be ruled a no contest given that Floyd cheated.

[djtmal]

Just not enough to label him guilty.

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Illegal is illegal.

He's as illegal as Margarito was.

[djtmal]

We of course know he wasn’t that shot.

Lets just be honest-Had he had agreed to a cutoff when the offer was on the table and not once Floyd got tired of his shenanigans and refusal, had he taken the $40 mil (no ppv)

He kept finding excuses for it not to happen. Why? Because he knew it was a bad matchup for Manny, .

Nobody said Manny was shot. Shopworn.

Floyd did not fight Manny at his peak and won't get any credit for fighting a shopworn version when you had years to make a fight.

14 day ost cutoff was fair across the board but when Floyd moved the goalposts to 0 is when the world knew he was ducking.

Manny would have been playing himself had he took that bogus 40 million offer. That was more or less a pr move to say you was trying to make a fight to the general public.

At 147 and up every matchup was bad for Manny. Oscar Cotto Margarito Thurman Ugas Horn most of those guys had a significant height and reach advantage. Floyd isn't a one punch ko artist so no need to be that scared.

Manny had already been outpointed and kod Floyd didn’t do anything we hadn't already seen

[djtmal]

Just not enough to label him guilty.

Seems to be the same standard you and others are upset about when Crawford says this about Manny, which is the thread topic.

He's definitely extremely suspect for ped use and no excuse from you is saving him.

Crawford came off as much a hater of Manny as you and Floyd is.

Praising Manny's accomplishments and in the same breath saying he doesn't think he did it himself because he slowed down with ko's proves how ignorant he is.

[QueensburyRules]

So you are not able to show how a Floyd fans opinion impacts his health. More faulty logic applied by you just to denigrate Floyd beating Manny by such a wide margin.

Instead you pivot to question no one can answer so you can again use faulty logic.

- - Ran like a kicked schoolboy when all Manny wanted to do was serve him the sushi that l'l floydy asked for.

Needed 2 week backdated TBE TUE and an altered scorecard by his hometown commish to secure his win.

U musta been kicked schoolboy finally having a fellow kicked schoolboy as a zero hero...yeah...

[hugh grant]

He had a chance to show it in the ring and couldn’t.. Stop it dude.

No, floyd didn't give a rematch to settle the controversial win. So how can pac show anything?.Floyd showed nothing himself

[The Big Dunn]

Nobody said Manny was shot. Shopworn.

Floyd did not fight Manny at his peak and won't get any credit for fighting a shopworn version when you had years to make a fight.

14 day ost cutoff was fair across the board but when Floyd moved the goalposts to 0 is when the world knew he was ducking.

Manny would have been playing himself had he took that bogus 40 million offer. That was more or less a pr move to say you was trying to make a fight to the general public.

At 147 and up every matchup was bad for Manny. Oscar Cotto Margarito Thurman Ugas Horn most of those guys had a significant height and reach advantage. Floyd isn't a one punch ko artist so no need to be that scared.

Manny had already been outpointed and kod Floyd didn’t do anything we hadn't already seen

Got it. So you defend Manny’s ducking and refusing to fight then claim the timing of the fight is why he lost. Any ex is because he just wasn’t man enough to beat Floyd in the ring.

Pathetic.

[The Big Dunn]

No, floyd didn't give a rematch to settle the controversial win. So how can pac show anything?.Floyd showed nothing himself

I know you’re one of the dumber Manny pole smokers that knows little about the actual sport. You don’t have a rematch when the scores are 10-2, 10-2, & 9-3.

That is a clear victory. You have rematches when the scores are close like Castillo and Maidana.

He showed what he had. Floyd was just better than him and the best opponent he ever faced. Same as what happens to many boxers in the same situation- they get outclassed.

[djtmal]

So you defend Manny’s ducking and refusing to fight then claim the timing of the fight is why he lost.

I am not defending anything. Floyd didn’t want to fight Manny in his prime in 2009.

Floyd hid behind osts.