TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[djtmal]

Number clearly don’t reflect that. Stop blatantly lying again.

I don't have to lie about that

I guess you feel like coming up with some more excuses today

[The Big Dunn]

I don't have to lie about that

You just did. Manny was well behind Floyd.

Floyd had done 2 mil ( and dont tell us it was ODH. He never did more than 1.5 mil and that was in his biggest fight against Tito, the 2nd biggest star at the time).

He more than doubled Manny with JMM (1 mil v 400k) in 2009.

[djtmal]

Floyd had done 2 mil ( and dont tell us it was ODH.
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Prior to that fight what was he averaging

Prior to that fight what was Oscar averaging

[IronDanHamza]

I'm not sure if there is any shred of evidence of a legitimate number that is not based on rumours.

Are you retarded? HE HAS RECORDED IN RING WEIGHTS, I literally have provided them.

That's not a rumour dumbass, that's his in ring weights that were recorded by HBO as well as 30 day WBC weigh ins as well.

You are aware of the fact that Floyd was able to dictate the terms so that Maidana was under no circumstance to be able to fight with his usual Cleto horsehair shoes or the fight would be flagged off and everyone had to go home.

In Maidana 1 the commission didn't pass the gloves.

In Maidana 2 the gloves were in the contract that Maidana signed.

So that's totally irrelevant to his in ring weights which he have countless data on.

Those numbers can all be filled in a form if one party has that much negotiation power.

Erm no, they are recorded by the broadcaster in his case HBO and Showtime.

I go with logic that when you weigh in 155 when you are out of shape and in your 40s, then you must be of higher weight and more muscle mass in prime i.e. end up at around 160.

That's not logic you are using that is straight up the opposite and closer to stupidity.

Being out of shape and older usually leads to someone weighing more not less, you dumb fuck.

You clearly have never seen the inside of the gym in your life

[Haka]

Are you retarded? HE HAS RECORDED IN RING WEIGHTS, I literally have provided them.

That's not a rumour dumbass, that's his in ring weights that were recorded by HBO as well as 30 day WBC weigh ins as well.




In Maidana 1 the commission didn't pass the gloves.

In Maidana 2 the gloves were in the contract that Maidana signed.

So that's totally irrelevant to his in ring weights which he have countless data on.




Erm no, they are recorded by the broadcaster in his case HBO and Showtime.




That's not logic you are using that is straight up the opposite and closer to stupidity.

Being out of shape and older usually leads to someone weighing more not less, you dumb fuck.

You clearly have never seen the inside of the gym in your life

You don't seem to understand that you lose muscle as you age.

[IronDanHamza]

You don't seem to understand that you lose muscle as you age.

Well firstly, that's not necessarily true and entirely dependent on the person, their genetics, the supplements they're taking, and a long list of other moving parts. Especially pre age 50.

Secondly, if someone were to hypothetically lose muscle as they age, they may gain a substantial amount of body fat, which would cause weight gain, not weight loss. Or it could be neither, or it could be both.

Thirdly, your metabolism generally tends to slow down with age, which may also cause weight gain.

The fact you actually think a supposed "out of shape" 44 year old Floyd weighing in at 155 somehow translates to meaning he must have weighed 160 whilst he was fighting is mind numbingly dumb.

We KNOW what Floyd weighed throughout his career you thick cunt. We literally have the data to prove it.

[Haka]

Well firstly, that's not necessarily true and entirely dependent on the person, their genetics, the supplements they're taking, and a long list of other moving parts. Especially pre age 50.

Secondly, if someone were to hypothetically lose muscle as they age, they may gain a substantial amount of body fat, which would cause weight gain, not weight loss. Or it could be neither, or it could be both.

Thirdly, your metabolism generally tends to slow down with age, which may also cause weight gain.

The fact you actually think a supposed "out of shape" 44 year old Floyd weighing in at 155 somehow translates to meaning he must have weighed 160 whilst he was fighting is mind numbingly dumb.

We KNOW what Floyd weighed throughout his career you thick cunt. We literally have the data to prove it.

That "data" might have been filled on a form in some backroom, there is no weigh in commissioned by a sanctioned third party which has it published, like in the Haney - Prograis fight. If you are able to change legally sanctioned Cleto Reyes gloves you can just fill in some number on a form. How about: retire, stop using the substances that you need masking agent for, stop training as hard, age, lose muscle and come down to 155.

[The Big Dunn]

Prior to that fight what was he averaging

Prior to that fight what was Oscar averaging

We know ODH was the cash cow. We also know his biggest event was Trinidad, the 2nd biggest draw, at 1.5 mil.

Floyd ODH did 5-600k more. Floyd did the work on 24/7.

I get you’re a pole smoker and a hater but just stop.

[IronDanHamza]

That "data" might have been filled on a form in some backroom

So why did you say he did have those pre 2005 when he doesn't?

You aren't seeming to grasp that fighters "in ring" weights are 99% of the time recorded by the broadcaster. Name a fighter of the modern era, their "in ring" weights are recorded by the broadcaster on the day like all of those Floyd in ring weights were and released on the broadcast pre fight.

there is no weigh in commissioned by a sanctioned third party which has it published, like in the Haney - Prograis fight.

That's a California protocol and also relatively new.

If you are able to change legally sanctioned Cleto Reyes gloves you can just fill in some number on a form.

That's something called a contract, that Maidana signed pre fight. In regards to the gloves.

How about: retire, stop using the substances that you need masking agent for, stop training as hard, age, lose muscle and come down to 155.

You mean GO UP to 155 DUMBASS.

Your argument is backwards. He's more likely to be heavier in that scenario not lighter you thick idiot

[QueensburyRules]

- - t-bud can't draw flies, so he soils hisself by slandering Manny.