Does DDD get a pass

[JakeTheBoxer]

He did nothing of the sort. Hrgovic underestimated him, was winning the fight, then he got cut and Dubois fouled with his head butts. Check the video, you will see I am correct.

Let this be a waring to him to be in shape and never underestimate a puncher.

Anyway, Hrgovic fights the man who TKO'd Dubos next.

After that he is back in the mix.

Even if Hrgovic wins, he will need another similar win to get in the mix.

Joyce is really only a fringe guy at this point. Biut if Joyce wins, Joyce gets back in the mix, because Hrgovic is still top 10 by The Ring.

[Dr Z]

He massively exposed him. Do you still think Hrgovic beats Usyk?

They match up differently. For a big guy, Hrg has good feet and a body attack. Yes I do think he wins with the caveat that Hrgovic must be in shape. And Usyk isn't 35 anymore. He is old and approaching the steep decline. By the time the fight is made and they are in the ring...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Again, you're ignoring that their history is corruption, incompetence, and disgrace. You're ignoring that they've made their own lineages worthless.

Your argument boils down to the fact that the WBA is old. So what? They have done absolutely nothing in the last four decades to be worthy of preservation. They have done far, far more harm than good.

I don’t know whether you’re a little autistic or something but you do realise people are allowed to have different opinions to yours.

Go ask any fighter if they’d rather have a WBC title or be TBRB #1. I guarantee they’d rather have the former.

As I asked you before, did you ever box as a kid? Because a lot of fighters grow up dreaming of winning these belts. I’m not defending their BS policies, rankings etc but they do have a place in the sport in my opinion and you crying about corruption isn’t going to change that.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

They match up differently. For a big guy, Hrg has good feet and a body attack. Yes I do think he wins with the caveat that Hrgovic must be in shape. And Usyk isn't 35 anymore. He is old and approaching the steep decline. By the time the fight is made and they are in the ring...

They’ll never fight because Hrgovic isn’t even good enough to lace Usyk’s boots. He got a gift against Zhang and smashed by Dubois. Everything else on his resume is completely uninspiring.

You were so, so wrong about Hrgovic. Do you still think he’s a future HOF’er?

[Marchegiano]

It’s a fair point. Chisora is on a better run than he was when he fought Fury and it’s also a mandatory tbf to Dubois. The IBF rankings and rules again have to be questioned. How can Chisora-Wallin be a final eliminator? That’s the bigger question for me.

I think it may have been more of an everyone else was going for someone else's route to a title. For example Parker used the IBF and WBO regionals to force himself into ratings, then got a fight with Deontay for a WBC regional and cashed them in for a WBO interim, which takes him out of IBF ratings.

I'm just going off memory bud so if I'm well off, my bad, but again I think it was like everyone ahead of Wallin fought someone for something that forces the IBF out of their career path or at least acknowledges they person is scheduled and can't fight for their elim or won't because they're securing or have secured a shot another root. Like Agit went EBU, NABO, WBC Interim. Gone, off the IBF ratings and the projection or scheduling was already in place.

Not trying to defend the IBF really, just saying if you can try to remember who was fighting for what BS belt they were all kind of avoiding the IBF route. The WBO and C did some attracting or some such.

Basically, if you look at everyone's ratings now what you see is the winners of the most recent high profile HW fights at title contention or near it on other ratings board and the losers piling into the IBF. Hrgovic is rated highest by the IBF, I'm pretty sure of that at least.



I mean yeah, IBF wants on that Chisora train but not really. It's just the best option after all the hotter options went elsewhere.

[PRINCEKOOL]

No, a fight against Derek Chisora astonishingly is a creditable title fight to make objectively on both fighters recent form. Outside of Oleksandr Uysk, Joseph Parker, Daniel Dubois, and Anthony Joshua 'Derek Chisora on merit as a Heavyweight fighter, has been fighting and winning against the highest level of competition. I stated this on the eve of Otto Wallin vs Derek Chisora. If he was to win that fight? He would of achieved a higher level of consecutive wins, than 90 to 95% of the Heavyweight Division'.

Derek Chisora last 3 fights have been superior wins than what Moses Itauma, Fabio Wardley, and Martin Bakole have all achieved 'Zhilei Zhang was highly regarded by many within the boxing community, while his best two wins were against Joe Joyce back to back. Derek Chisora has just beaten Joe Joyce in his prior fight, before beating Otto Wallin. Nobody can deny, that his last three fights have been a real solid level for most Heavyweight fighters'.

Kubret Pulev, Joe Joyce, Otto Wallin 'At the time all of those fights were made, they were genuinely top level heavyweight fights. If Filip Hrgovic is able to beat Joe Joyce on April 5th, that win would be his second best win on his resume'.

Derek Chisora whether people like to admit it or not 'Has positioned himself for a title fight on merit. Chisora was not a definitive favourite to beat ether Joe Joyce, or Otto Wallin they were actually stylistically both potentially very difficult fights for differing technical reasons'.

Note: As I have stated in some of my previous posts, in regards to the potential matchup between Chisora and Dubois. 'People may mock Derek Chisora, and yes? He is a fighter way outside of his peak 'But regardless, Chisora has never been a front runner like Daniel Dubois has at top level. If Derek Chisora has lost a fight, it has never been due to him disappearing in a fight and completely eroding in front of his opponents due to fatigue'.

Every time Daniel Dubois has lost 'It has been due to him as a fighter being a front runner. Dubois was done by the middle rounds vs Joe Joyce and Oleksandr Uysk. Yes Dubois showed courage to battle on with an injury vs Joe Joyce, but regardless? Joe Joyce systematically beat him up with his jab, and as the rounds progressed Dubois faded back to black'.

I think a peak Derek Chisora definitively would have had a chance of beating Daniel Dubois 'I am not buying into Daniel Dubois being a Super Elite Power puncher. Dubois no doubt hits with serious power, but? He was only able to stop Anthony Joshua, due to him amplifying his power by wading into the punch'. Up until that point in the fight, Joshua appeared to be increasing his invulnerability to Dubois's physical attacks. Daniel Dubois was hurting Joshua, but round by round Dubois's power seemed to have less of an effect on Joshua'.

To conclude: If this fight between Derek Chisora and Daniel Dubois is made 'Dubois would be a favourite to win. But stylistically Derek Chisora could potentially make the fight action very difficult. If Chisora could just endure a great training camp, you never know? After 5 to 6 rounds against a solid Heavyweight fighter Daniel Dubois in my opinion is a vulnerable fighter'.

I am being very serious, if Dubois struggles to hurt Chisora. Or his attacks are not having the dramatic affect on Chisora . And Derek Chisora is still in fight after 5 to 6 rounds. If that style of fight develops, Daniel Dubois may encounter an extremely difficult fight. The only reason why I am being slightly modest in Chisora chances. Is because Chisora is a fighter miles outside of is peak, but he still has the ability to be a solid Heavyweight fighter as shown in his recent fights against Joe Joyce at Otto Wallin' etc.

[Dr Z]

They’ll never fight because Hrgovic isn’t even good enough to lace Usyk’s boots. He got a gift against Zhang and smashed by Dubois. Everything else on his resume is completely uninspiring.

You were so, so wrong about Hrgovic. Do you still think he’s a future HOF’er?

I never said that. Do not put words in my mouth, I said he had a chance to make the HOF. His carrer is not over yet. He did not get a gift vs. Zhang

[famicommander]

I don’t know whether you’re a little autistic or something but you do realise people are allowed to have different opinions to yours.

Go ask any fighter if they’d rather have a WBC title or be TBRB #1. I guarantee they’d rather have the former.

As I asked you before, did you ever box as a kid? Because a lot of fighters grow up dreaming of winning these belts. I’m not defending their BS policies, rankings etc but they do have a place in the sport in my opinion and you crying about corruption isn’t going to change that.

You are making pathetic excuses for a cancer on this sport. Boxing would improve drastically across the board if the WBA died tomorrow. Let go of your nostalgia and look at objective reality. The WBA is a blight.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You are making pathetic excuses for a cancer on this sport. Boxing would improve drastically across the board if the WBA died tomorrow. Let go of your nostalgia and look at objective reality. The WBA is a blight.

Are you autistic?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I never said that.

Yes you did and you know you did.