Comments Thread For: Technical difficulties prevented real-time review of non-knockdown call in Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach

[cruz1383]

So if the judges scored the round 10-9 to Davis, they thought he won the round irrespective of the KD. If that KD is made official what does the round score become - if Davis otherwise winning the round is accepted?

80-90% of the time when you get KD you lose the round so it would be a 10-8 for Roach. In a perfect world you would get a 9-9 even round but a KD hold a lot of weight with unbiased judges. Just note that a 9-9 round is not common practice and Tank would have had to dominate which he didn't really dominate said round for the 9-9 score.

[BirdSong]

80-90% of the time when you get KD you lose the round so it would be a 10-8 for Roach. In a perfect world you would get a 9-9 even round but a KD hold a lot of weight with unbiased judges. Just note that a 9-9 round is not common practice and Tank would have had to dominate which he didn't really dominate said round for the 9-9 score.

10 point must system for the guy who won the round is standard boxing stuff

[DeeMoney]

have a read of this

https://www.badlefthook.com/2011/5/12/2167500/pacquaio-vs-mosley-knockdown-kenny-bayless-mistake-replay

"Last Saturday night, Bayless called a knockdown against Manny Pacquiao in the 10th round of Pacquiao's bout with Shane Mosley, when from all angles it was an obvious shove from Mosley that put Pacquiao on the canvas"

Oh yeah, I remember it. But once its been scored a KD thats what it is (or at least was back then). Now we have video review to help fix......errr, nevermind.

[BirdSong]

Oh yeah, I remember it. But once its been scored a KD thats what it is (or at least was back then). Now we have video review to help fix......errr, nevermind.

there have been instances of judges seeing that the ref was incorrect for example they saw clearly it was a slip and not a kd and adjust their scores according

[remmy0112]

I agree, it shouldve been a KD, I agree it was bonkers how the ref handled it, and it reeks of corruption. BUT, since neither party adjusted it during the fight you can't retroactively score it a KD and then assume the following rounds would stay the same thus giving the decision to Roach. Here is an example to illustrate why:

Say their is a football game going on, Home team is up 5, 2:10 left in the game. Visitor have it 4th & goal from the 9. Visiting QB throws a pass to the corner of the endzone which is caught but the receiver was ruled out of bounds. Visiting team has no more challenges and the call stands. Home team takes the ball gains a first down then kneels down for the win. HOWEVER, when looking at the replay it was clear the receiver was in bounds when he made the catch, and it shouldve been a TD. IN fact it was blatantly clear, and the ref made a horrible mistake.
Now the NFL can't go back and award the visiting team a TD, and then say they get the win because the amount of points of the TD wouldve covered the 5 point margin they were trailing by. You have to figure the ending wouldve been different, the home team would've done something different and couldve come back. Would they have? Who knows, but you can't retroactively alter the outcome of a contest based on an error in scoring that took place within the contest.

Do I think Tank would've changed and fought better had it been scored a KD? No. But thats irrelevant, he would have needed to have the opportunity to do so. You can't set this precedence.

I get what your saying but in that case I think the nfl would rule the contest a draw or in boxings case, a "no contest". Which in this situation would really change nothing, tank still keeps his belt and Roach still gets nothing, I think if u can't retroactively give a fighter a loss i wish u could instead take his belt and give Roach a chance to fight for it again against a new opponent

[DeeMoney]

I get what your saying but in that case I think the nfl would rule the contest a draw or in boxings case, a "no contest". Which in this situation would really change nothing, tank still keeps his belt and Roach still gets nothing, I think if u can't retroactively give a fighter a loss i wish u could instead take his belt and give Roach a chance to fight for it again against a new opponent

No, the NFL wouldnt. They may admit the refs missed the call, and claim they want to do better in the future. But in the end the result would stand (see the Jan 2019 NFC championship).

This is one of the reasons why I like closed scoring by judges. Since it is secret, it no way impacts the action in the ring. So you feasibly could argue that a bad card should be changed

[THC]

Can't boxing journalists ask: what "technical difficulties"??

[OnePunch]

I get what your saying but in that case I think the nfl would rule the contest a draw or in boxings case, a "no contest". Which in this situation would really change nothing, tank still keeps his belt and Roach still gets nothing, I think if u can't retroactively give a fighter a loss i wish u could instead take his belt and give Roach a chance to fight for it again against a new opponent

In this case its probably better for Roach to keep the draw vs changing it to a no-contest. At least the record books will have him in an even fight with the defending champ (even if its still BS). I dont think the NYSAC will change it to a win for roach, even though they should.......

[baroidi]

Just like "technical difficulties" turned off the surveillance cameras when Epstein conveniently "hung himself" lol

[famicommander]

I get what your saying but in that case I think the nfl would rule the contest a draw or in boxings case, a "no contest". Which in this situation would really change nothing, tank still keeps his belt and Roach still gets nothing, I think if u can't retroactively give a fighter a loss i wish u could instead take his belt and give Roach a chance to fight for it again against a new opponent

They robbed Badou Jack against Lucian Bute, giving Jack a draw. But then, retroactively, it was changed to a DQ loss for Bute because he failed a drug test.

Davis received corner work during the round and his trainer was up on the apron during the round. Both are DQ-worthy offenses. Just DQ Davis and give Roach the win he earned.