Comments Thread For: Dmitry Bivol-David Benavidez should be next, not Artur Beterbiev trilogy
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I believe that I can accept a draw or 115-113 for Beterbiev, but I'm not sure about a victory for Bivol, especially not the 116-112 score. How does he win while backing up most of the night? Also, I find it interesting that Artur all but conceded that he may not have done enough to win the first fight, yet was clearly annoyed at the score cards this time around.
In addition, I agree with Artur. I do believe that he did lose the first fight but in my judgement; Performed much better in this fight as compared to the first one. Actually, they both did.
However and at the same time; I felt Dmitry had done more and outperformed him. I thought that Bivol after falling behind on the scorecards; Willed his way to victory because I believed he wanted it more than Beterbiev.Comment
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This was a good, close, highly entertaining and hotly contested bout. I believed that both fighters performed a lot better this time around in the rematch than they did in their previous bout.
I just believe that Bivol has many more wrinkles in his game and is overall the better fighter. Hands down, he is easily the more scientific, fundamentally sound, versatile and flexible of the two fighters.
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Funny coming from the guy who was talking about how Inoue needs to fight in America to be a star, as if he hasn't already fought in the US 3 times, and isn't already a bigger star in Japan than Tank Davis or Bud Crawford is here... You got zero room to be talking about posting tier. Your take here is just as bad. Trying to act like it's a bad take thinking that Beterbiev would win again, when these two are so evenly matched? Bivol has to fight close to a perfect fight every time to not get knocked out given the power differential. Why would it be far fetched that the guy with power who boxed with the boxer on even terms in the first fight, and is the guy with the more judge friendly style would have a good chance to win?
It's a moot point anyways. Canelo has been ducking his top contenders since 2021. He's likely never going to fight Benavidez. He's probably not even going to fight any of the top ranked guys in his own division. He's going to fight Scull, a welterweight with one fight at 154 (who you think is going to beat him), and then the winner of a fight between a welterweight and a domestic level 168 guy. Anyone who defends that isn't capable of being objective, and seriously, you think Crawford will beat Canelo, but Benavidez has no chance??
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so go chase greatness and fight bivol. stop crying about canelo. this just proves canelo is the top dog.Comment
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but that;s my opinion.. you have yours, so why are you mad at me for? i feel like bena is an easy fight for canelo. history always repeat itself on here... the fanbase that accused other fighters of being scared, etc. always lose at the end. have a great day my boy!Comment
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I believe that I can accept a draw or 115-113 for Beterbiev, but I'm not sure about a victory for Bivol, especially not the 116-112 score. How does he win while backing up most of the night? Also, I find it interesting that Artur all but conceded that he may not have done enough to win the first fight, yet was clearly annoyed at the score cards this time around.
1. Clean punches landed. Bivol outlanded (pretty wide) Beterbiev in 9 rounds. He outlanded Beterbiev by over 40% despite throwing 141 fewer punches.
2. Ring generalship. With the exception of rounds 4-6, Bivol fought at the range he dictated, even pushing back the pressure fighter in several rounds, while Beterbiev mostly just followed him around, unable to even cut the ring. He fought and punched when he wanted to, and forced Beterbiev to reset, often with an unfavorable exchange, for most of the fight.
3. Defense. Bivol landed at a rate of over 31%, while holding Beterbiev to a mere 17.6%. Not even a little in question.
4. Effective aggression. Bivol landed by more clean punches, drove the pressure fighter back on several occasions, and turned the tide with his combinations to take full control of the fight, after looking like he'd get stopped on rounds 5 and 6. Beterbiev's biggest moment was a cut opened in the waning minutes of the final round: enough maybe to win the round, but not to win the fight.
Bivol clearly won 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 11, while Beterbiev clearly won 4 and 5. Possible swing rounds were 3, in which Bivol outlanded Beterbiev 17 to 13; 6, which honestly I scored for Beterbiev, but Bivol outlanded him 18 to 11 in that round; 10, in which Beterbiev outlanded Bivol by 1, despite taking more power punches than he landed; and 12, in which Bivol outlanded Beterbiev 12 to 9.
Since Bivol was the clear ring general, had the best defense and most landed clean punches in 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, the question isn't "how did Bivol win", but more "how can you possibly award Beterbiev even as much as a draw".Comment
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They're terrible takes. So you have no room to talk about terrible takes for others. At least those who thought Beterbiev would win had some basis in fact to believe so. You didn't even know that Inoue has fought out of Japan 4 times more than Tank Davis or Errol Spence Jr have fought out of their home countries.Comment
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