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  • Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post
    Bivol will fight Callum Smith before Benavidez. Wait and see.
    That’s how I’d match Bivol if I was his team

    give him an easy fight after 3 a row against Artur

    Slow the wear & tear
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    • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

      I believe that I can accept a draw or 115-113 for Beterbiev, but I'm not sure about a victory for Bivol, especially not the 116-112 score. How does he win while backing up most of the night? Also, I find it interesting that Artur all but conceded that he may not have done enough to win the first fight, yet was clearly annoyed at the score cards this time around.
      Well that's understandable and fair. If I could have found an additional round to flip for Beterbiev then he could have easily won this fight 115-113.

      In addition, I agree with Artur. I do believe that he did lose the first fight but in my judgement; Performed much better in this fight as compared to the first one. Actually, they both did.

      However and at the same time; I felt Dmitry had done more and outperformed him. I thought that Bivol after falling behind on the scorecards; Willed his way to victory because I believed he wanted it more than Beterbiev.

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      • Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
        That’s how I’d match Bivol if I was his team

        give him an easy fight after 3 a row against Artur

        Slow the wear & tear
        Indeed. Bivol won't fight Benavidez before second half 2026. Benavidez needs some career plan until than.

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        • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          This was a good, close, highly entertaining and hotly contested bout. I believed that both fighters performed a lot better this time around in the rematch than they did in their previous bout.

          I just believe that Bivol has many more wrinkles in his game and is overall the better fighter. Hands down, he is easily the more scientific, fundamentally sound, versatile and flexible of the two fighters.
          He’s also the best runner of the two
          Just in case you forgot that point

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          • Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

            Funny coming from the guy who was talking about how Inoue needs to fight in America to be a star, as if he hasn't already fought in the US 3 times, and isn't already a bigger star in Japan than Tank Davis or Bud Crawford is here... You got zero room to be talking about posting tier. Your take here is just as bad. Trying to act like it's a bad take thinking that Beterbiev would win again, when these two are so evenly matched? Bivol has to fight close to a perfect fight every time to not get knocked out given the power differential. Why would it be far fetched that the guy with power who boxed with the boxer on even terms in the first fight, and is the guy with the more judge friendly style would have a good chance to win?

            It's a moot point anyways. Canelo has been ducking his top contenders since 2021. He's likely never going to fight Benavidez. He's probably not even going to fight any of the top ranked guys in his own division. He's going to fight Scull, a welterweight with one fight at 154 (who you think is going to beat him), and then the winner of a fight between a welterweight and a domestic level 168 guy. Anyone who defends that isn't capable of being objective, and seriously, you think Crawford will beat Canelo, but Benavidez has no chance??
            im not the only one saying this... EVERYONE is saying inoue needs to come to the US, even the boxing writers!!!! what does this have anything to do with me saying bivol will beat beterbiev? cry more. that;s what yall good at on here. LOL!!!

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            • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

              Of course, Canelo's not the only break out fight for Benny and he obviously agrees, hence the move up to LHW. But as for raising his stock more vs Canelo than vs Bivol? I'd say it's pretty damn close!
              so go chase greatness and fight bivol. stop crying about canelo. this just proves canelo is the top dog.

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              • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                Seeing as Canelo is 6 years older than Benavidez, I'd say that waiting longer favors David. So, you try to justify Alvarez's cowardice by saying that Benavidez can't beat him anyway! And you feel that Benny is a cherry pick for Canelo! Hilarious!
                but that;s my opinion.. you have yours, so why are you mad at me for? i feel like bena is an easy fight for canelo. history always repeat itself on here... the fanbase that accused other fighters of being scared, etc. always lose at the end. have a great day my boy!

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                • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                  I believe that I can accept a draw or 115-113 for Beterbiev, but I'm not sure about a victory for Bivol, especially not the 116-112 score. How does he win while backing up most of the night? Also, I find it interesting that Artur all but conceded that he may not have done enough to win the first fight, yet was clearly annoyed at the score cards this time around.
                  Boxing is scored on 4 criteria:

                  1. Clean punches landed. Bivol outlanded (pretty wide) Beterbiev in 9 rounds. He outlanded Beterbiev by over 40% despite throwing 141 fewer punches.

                  2. Ring generalship. With the exception of rounds 4-6, Bivol fought at the range he dictated, even pushing back the pressure fighter in several rounds, while Beterbiev mostly just followed him around, unable to even cut the ring. He fought and punched when he wanted to, and forced Beterbiev to reset, often with an unfavorable exchange, for most of the fight.

                  3. Defense. Bivol landed at a rate of over 31%, while holding Beterbiev to a mere 17.6%. Not even a little in question.

                  4. Effective aggression. Bivol landed by more clean punches, drove the pressure fighter back on several occasions, and turned the tide with his combinations to take full control of the fight, after looking like he'd get stopped on rounds 5 and 6. Beterbiev's biggest moment was a cut opened in the waning minutes of the final round: enough maybe to win the round, but not to win the fight.

                  Bivol clearly won 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 11, while Beterbiev clearly won 4 and 5. Possible swing rounds were 3, in which Bivol outlanded Beterbiev 17 to 13; 6, which honestly I scored for Beterbiev, but Bivol outlanded him 18 to 11 in that round; 10, in which Beterbiev outlanded Bivol by 1, despite taking more power punches than he landed; and 12, in which Bivol outlanded Beterbiev 12 to 9.

                  Since Bivol was the clear ring general, had the best defense and most landed clean punches in 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, the question isn't "how did Bivol win", but more "how can you possibly award Beterbiev even as much as a draw".

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                  • Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                    That’s how I’d match Bivol if I was his team

                    give him an easy fight after 3 a row against Artur

                    Slow the wear & tear
                    both are eazy fight imo..

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                    • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                      im not the only one saying this... EVERYONE is saying inoue needs to come to the US, even the boxing writers!!!! what does this have anything to do with me saying bivol will beat beterbiev? cry more. that;s what yall good at on here. LOL!!!
                      Find one boxing writer who isn't motivated by race who says Inoue needs to come to the US to be a star. The only ones I've seen have been black former fighters who didn't even know that Inoue had already fought in the US. They're also the same ones talking ****** fights like "Inoue should fight Tank" on one hand and talking about how great Crawford is for moving up even fewer divisions to fight Canelo.

                      They're terrible takes. So you have no room to talk about terrible takes for others. At least those who thought Beterbiev would win had some basis in fact to believe so. You didn't even know that Inoue has fought out of Japan 4 times more than Tank Davis or Errol Spence Jr have fought out of their home countries.

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