Is US boxing on the decline?

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  • NihonJim
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    #51
    Originally posted by TheProudLunatic
    USA = 1 country
    Euro = Many

    How are the individual Euro countries doing boxing/sports wise ?!?!?
    Do you want to give USA props for having more world champions than New Zealand as well

    The USA is not REALLY one country, the individual states are like countries, it's a vast continental sized group of "states" many of which are bigger and more populated than many European countries.
    Last edited by NihonJim; 06-12-2025, 06:00 AM.

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    • Dr Z
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      #52
      Originally posted by NihonJim

      Do you want to give USA props for having more world champions than New Zealand as well

      The USA is not REALLY one country, the individual states are like countries, it's a vast continental sized group of "states" many of which are bigger and more populated than many European countries.


      Well the EU has its own flag and currency and is made up of many European nations. So... they are acting that way. Mostly they decide things in a non nation sense, relying on the mass of the EU to carry weight.​

      As such they are on one nation, not several. Germany is the real power and acts most like its own naiton.



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      • HisExcellency
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        #53
        Boxing IS on the decline in America but how come nobody's talking about the US being the birthplace of p0rn, junk food, wokeness (not to mention being the obesity capital of the world)? Do you think they have these kind of problems in Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan lol?

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        • Coverdale
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          #54
          Originally posted by HisExcellency
          Boxing IS on the decline in America but how come nobody's talking about the US being the birthplace of p0rn, junk food, wokeness (not to mention being the obesity capital of the world)? Do you think they have these kind of problems in Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan lol?
          You actually raise an interesting philosophical question. Poorer nations have less obesity for obvious reasons and also tend to be more culturally conservative.

          The idea of a Third World adult film star is ludicrous, that kind of thing can only exist in wealthy, decadent nations.

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          • TheProudLunatic
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            #55
            Originally posted by NihonJim

            Do you want to give USA props for having more world champions than New Zealand as well

            The USA is not REALLY one country, the individual states are like countries, it's a vast continental sized group of "states" many of which are bigger and more populated than many European countries.
            Bruh........
            Gotta be top 10 ATG excuse
            But no answer.
            My questions rarely get answered.

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            • brettWall
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              #56
              Originally posted by HisExcellency
              Boxing IS on the decline in America but how come nobody's talking about the US being the birthplace of p0rn, junk food, wokeness (not to mention being the obesity capital of the world)? Do you think they have these kind of problems in Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan lol?
              The high cost of food nowadays is solving obesity problem in America. I see people on Tiktok complaining why even eating fast food costs too damn much.

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              • SteveM
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                #57
                Originally posted by jqSide
                This site alone shows it's in decline. Writers have nothing much to write about when it comes to US fighters.
                I don't believe that's true - there's loads of angles to hit but there not being interviewed enough.
                Interview Bam Rodriguez
                Interview Wilder ffs - biggest recent US star ie last 15 years - ask him what he did wrong in Fury fights - we all think we know what he did wrong but what does he think
                Interview Bob Arum - ask him what motivates him to keep going
                ask Crawford about details of his camp before the Spence fight
                Heck - where is Spence? Go find him

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                • famicommander
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                  #58
                  If you look at the origin countries of every major belt holder, everybody in the TBRB top 10, and everybody in the Ring top 10 there are some obvious clues as to what is happening.

                  Americans, by and large, dominate those categories from 126-168. 122 and below, not many Americans. 175 and up, again, not many Americans.

                  The upper weight classes are easier to explain. It's MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL. All those leagues have average weights over 200 pounds. Quality American athletes of that size are simply being funneled into more popular sports.

                  As for the lower weights, I think there's just much more competition there in Asian and Latino countries. Especially Japan and Mexico.
                  Last edited by famicommander; 06-21-2025, 02:47 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jqSide
                    This site alone shows it's in decline. Writers have nothing much to write about when it comes to US fighters.
                    This site has recently made a concerted effort to interview every minor British boxer they can find. While neglecting even the major American and Mexican fighters by comparison.

                    The bias is obvious. It’s almost like they’re deliberately trying to kill US boxing.

                    That’s why I’m glad an American just starched a Japanese fighter. That ought to be a reality check for some.

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