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  • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

    Yeah? Maybe you ought to look it up, clown. It prevents muscle loss while cutting weight, AND it increases muscle mass and strength.
    Stick to mortal kombat geek. It was such a trace amount it wouldn't do **** and it wasn't in his system a week out from the fight.

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    • Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post

      Stick to mortal kombat geek. It was such a trace amount it wouldn't do **** and it wasn't in his system a week out from the fight.
      Wow, talk about a delayed response. I have long moved on from this conversation, bub. You believe it to be an insignificant amount, but the NYSAC felt it was enough to suspend him. If Ryan truly believes he was wronged, he can always seek litigation in the courts, as Haney is doing against him.

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      • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

        Wow, talk about a delayed response. I have long moved on from this conversation, bub. You believe it to be an insignificant amount, but the NYSAC felt it was enough to suspend him. If Ryan truly believes he was wronged, he can always seek litigation in the courts, as Haney is doing against him.
        "Seek litigation in court" I know that would be your move

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        • Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post

          "Seek litigation in court" I know that would be your move
          YDKSA me.

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          • Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post

            Stick to mortal kombat geek. It was such a trace amount it wouldn't do **** and it wasn't in his system a week out from the fight.
            That doesnt tell you what was there before so nobody can say how much benefit he got earlier, its only a sign that he used it, doesnt say for how long or how much and that doubt is open to interpretation.

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            • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              That doesnt tell you what was there before so nobody can say how much benefit he got earlier, its only a sign that he used it, doesnt say for how long or how much and that doubt is open to interpretation.
              He was tested throughout camp...

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              • Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post

                He was tested throughout camp...
                thats how it works for all these guys are u saying they wre all spiked lololol

                only big baby miller fails multiple tests

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                • [QUOTE=Roadblock;n32396430]

                  That doesnt tell you what was there before so nobody can say how much benefit he got earlier, its only a sign that he used it, doesnt say for how long or how much and that doubt is open to interpretation.[/QUOTE

                  If we're to believe the test is accurate, then it stands to reason he was clean for the prior tests and leads one to believe that Ryan only benefitted from Ostarine a couple of days prior to fighting. That is why I believe that he used it for the purpose of shedding pounds in a hurry to try and make weight, or at least come as close to making weight so the money he was set to lose on the bet made was as little as possible.

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                  • [QUOTE=LarryMerchant'sBottle;n32408485]
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    That doesnt tell you what was there before so nobody can say how much benefit he got earlier, its only a sign that he used it, doesnt say for how long or how much and that doubt is open to interpretation.[/QUOTE

                    If we're to believe the test is accurate, then it stands to reason he was clean for the prior tests and leads one to believe that Ryan only benefitted from Ostarine a couple of days prior to fighting. That is why I believe that he used it for the purpose of shedding pounds in a hurry to try and make weight, or at least come as close to making weight so the money he was set to lose on the bet made was as little as possible.
                    Doesn't necessarily stand to reason. Lots of these guys dope on cycles so they can test clean, even though they're still geared up. I'm not the expert on the topic, but I do know it's possible to test clean while still having cheated.

                    That being said, it's not like ostarine in Garcia makes Haney drop his right hand when he jabs and be defensively irresponsible. Nor did it make Haney's brother claim, before the results came out, that he'd test positive. That stuff just makes Ryan seem more credible, which is a tall order considering how much crazy stuff comes out of him. It's a weird situation. I just hope Haney learned the right lessons about his defensive flaws, rather than being delusional.

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                    • Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle View Post

                      If we're to believe the test is accurate, then it stands to reason he was clean for the prior tests and leads one to believe that Ryan only benefitted from Ostarine a couple of days prior to fighting. That is why I believe that he used it for the purpose of shedding pounds in a hurry to try and make weight, or at least come as close to making weight so the money he was set to lose on the bet made was as little as possible.
                      The tests aren't accurate, is the entire point. Passing a drug test does not mean you're not taking drugs. They aren't even difficult to beat.

                      Just because Garcia passed throughout camp and failed on the last week doesn't mean he was only using PED's for that last week.

                      It could have been a contaminated supplement that lead to his failed drug test like he's claimed, that's plausible. He also could have been using PED's for the entire camp, that is also plausible.

                      All we know for sure as a matter of fact is he had PED's in his system at the two times he was caught.

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