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  • Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

    They are a big problem in boxing. But money and the multitude of "world championship" belts is a bigger problem

    Yeah but its not just roids its human growth hormone. A ton of things. And if they don't swing a fight - why do people risk their career to take them then?
    The facts are not there to support the claim
    We have this, though -

    "List of deaths due to injuries sustained in boxing"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ined_in_boxing

    Not a roider in sight

    Fighters risk taking them because they want to be the best version of themselves ?
    AKA a mental edge ?
    I mean, why does anyone risk taking drugs when the risk of arrest is possible (worse than being banned).

    If the worst thing roids do is give us a fighter in great shape, then so be it.

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    • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

      The facts are not there to support the claim
      We have this, though -

      "List of deaths due to injuries sustained in boxing"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ined_in_boxing

      Not a roider in sight

      Fighters risk taking them because they want to be the best version of themselves ?
      AKA a mental edge ?
      I mean, why does anyone risk taking drugs when the risk of arrest is possible (worse than being banned).

      If the worst thing roids do is give us a fighter in great shape, then so be it.
      We seen fighters in all sports come off roids and they are different fighters. The fact they make you stronger, you need less recovery time and they increase your punch output. Boxing is already a dangerous sport - taking PEDs makes it more dangerous.

      Not to mention Flo Jo died from PEDs - after her career finished but they ruined her heart. Arnold (schwarzennegger) had a number of heart operations. We know he used PEDs too. They cause heart disease in the long run

      What you could do though, is to challenge mainstream science with the arguments you wrote on a forum. Just put them all in a scientific paper saying how safe steroid use is in boxing and then get it peer reviewed. It's impossible to see how you could fail.

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      • Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

        We seen fighters in all sports come off roids and they are different fighters. The fact they make you stronger, you need less recovery time and they increase your punch output. Boxing is already a dangerous sport - taking PEDs makes it more dangerous.

        Not to mention Flo Jo died from PEDs - after her career finished but they ruined her heart. Arnold (schwarzennegger) had a number of heart operations. We know he used PEDs too. They cause heart disease in the long run

        What you could do though, is to challenge mainstream science with the arguments you wrote on a forum. Just put them all in a scientific paper saying how safe steroid use is in boxing and then get it peer reviewed. It's impossible to see how you could fail.
        Sigh

        For every singular roid mishap, there are 1000s of non roid mishaps.
        So, you tell me.

        My point is proven every time a roider fights.
        USUALLY UD12, yawn
        Don't even mention the Garcia vs Haney fight
        Not one announcer, cornerman, fight fan yelled about how roided Ryan was prior to OR DURING the fight

        Why do you think so many non roiders seriously injure, or worse, each other so much.......Science would like to know.​

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        • "Category - Doping cases in boxing"
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ases_in_boxing

          Who's hero(s) made the list

          Name n shame time
          Last edited by BodyBagz; 10-11-2024, 10:13 PM.

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          • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
            Not one announcer, cornerman, fight fan yelled about how roided Ryan was prior to OR DURING the fight
            This might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen - no offence.

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            • Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

              This might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen - no offence.
              Saying someone is dumb WITHOUT EXPLAINING IT makes the name-caller even dumber

              Everyone is a know it all AFTER THE FACT.

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              • Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
                Not to mention Flo Jo died from PEDs - after her career finished but they ruined her heart. Arnold (schwarzennegger) had a number of heart operations. We know he used PEDs too. They cause heart disease in the long run.
                This will NO DOUBT be TL/DR for someone as weak and spineless as you


                Steroids at work !!!!!!

                Flo Jo (RIP) -
                "Before the 1988 track and field season, her best time in the 100-meter sprint was 10.96 seconds (set in 1987). In 1988, she improved that by 0.47 seconds. Her best before 1988 at 200 meters was 21.96 seconds (also set in 1987). In 1988, she improved that by 0.62 seconds to 21.34 seconds, another time that has not been approached. On September 21, 1998, Griffith Joyner died in her sleep at home in the Canyon Crest neighborhood of Mission Viejo, California, at the age of 38. The unexpected death was investigated by the Orange County Sheriff-Coroner's office, which announced on September 22 that the cause of death was suffocation during a severe epileptic seizure. The only drugs in her system when she died were small amounts of two common over-the-counter drugs, acetaminophen and the antihistamineBenadryl​."
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Griffith_Joyner

                Olympic and Paralympic deaths
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympi...t=At%20the%20m odern%20Olympic%20Games,potentially%20a%20result%2 0of%20competition.

                !!!!!!!!!!

                Sheeit, more people have died at a keekball game -
                What was the deadliest soccer match in history?
                "As of 24 October 2022, 135 people had lost their lives, and 583 others were injured. The disaster is the second deadliest in the history of association football worldwide, after the 1964 Estadio Nacional disaster in Peru which killed 328 people."

                Arnold....
                220px-Arnold_Schwarzenegger_1974.jpg
                Prime Arnold

                3B8D01A600000578-4053912-image-m-29_1482296260679.jpg
                Alive and well @ age 77.
                Steroids waiting to take him out !!!!!!


                Hey, Google......
                "Do Mr. Olympia champs take steroids?" -
                Olympia champions have come clean about using drugs throughout the years. As a result, steroid usage in Mr. Olympia's competitions has consistently raised concerns ( ). However, IFBB, the organization that oversees the competition, has regularly denied the usage of steroids in the competition.
                Mar 13, 2024

                So.......the champs are lying ?!?!?!?

                Professional bodybuilders is the one profession where roid usage would be prevalent, so..............​let's take a peek

                "Premature Death in Bodybuilders: What Do We Know?"
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9885939/

                "A wealth of research has revealed elite athletes typically enjoy lower mortality rates than non-athletes, but research on bodybuilder lifespan is surprisingly limited."



                "Flo Jo, doe ..............."

                ​​
                Last edited by BodyBagz; 10-13-2024, 04:03 AM.

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                • Roid whiners must be glad they don't bump threads anymore !!!!!!!!

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                  • Why do you think so many non roiders seriously injure, or worse, each other so much.......Science would like to know.​

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                    • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                      Saying someone is dumb WITHOUT EXPLAINING IT makes the name-caller even dumber

                      Everyone is a know it all AFTER THE FACT.
                      Well I said on this forum before the Bivol fight that Beteriev is on PEDs. So that guy has proof now of someone saying it before the fight. You saw a 40 year old guy who was stronger and had more stamina than guys 10 years younger.

                      But expecting commenters or announcers to say someone is on PEDs is next-level dumb.

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