Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson says 'young black guys' are held to a different standard when it comes to entertaining in the ring

[Oldskoolg]

I knew this one was going to bring out the alt right/4chan crowd lol….but while that may be true Shakur, you have not and are not helping your career by winning “safely” each and every time out. You simply have to take more chances if you want positive recognition

[billeau2]

While Shakur is partially correct in that there are double standard expectations of Black boxers, most of today's generation have a short attention span. They only want quick fights which usually means they're only interested in the knockout. Boxing fans who can appreciate all that the sweet science offers, love Shakur....for the most part.

I'm Black and dude is an excellent boxer.

I am a believer that good medicine cures what ails one. Shakur is a young kid whom, like most kids, has a distorted view of himself. has nothing to do with race, so much as our Psychiatric development. It takes a while for a young person to truly understand from a deep abiding connection to experience, that they are not the center of the Universe and, that they are mortal and can be shot, etc. I say this because Shakur and the other young guys who are boxing get a lot more attention, hence the problems stated are worse!

The medicine Shakur needs is when he fights a gifted puncher, like Davis, and gets the Haney treatment. When he realizes that he better develop some skills to hit hard enough not to rely only on defensive actions. When he looks at film of Whitaker and mayweather and realizes that both guys could punch and make an impact.

Most people who understand boxing understand that technically speaking? Shakur has fought nobody really... Nobody who could test him. Even Tank has a better resume.

So either people are wrong and poor Shakur is a boxing prodigy... able to keep anyone away even though his style is boring... Or a fight against a real puncher will show him he better get some chops. I know which possibility here I think is true lol!

[billeau2]

I knew this one was going to bring out the alt right/4chan crowd lol….but while that may be true Shakur, you have not and are not helping your career by winning “safely” each and every time out. You simply have to take more chances if you want positive recognition

What did I ever do to you guys!?? have I not been a polite poster? You know how long I was suffering with my insomnia? And you guys are gonna ruin it all by telling Shakur to do something in the ring... Humph!!

[billeau2]

Someone in here mentioned Chris Byrd. Chris Byrd was more exciting the shakur.
and I don’t remember shakur fans being excited about Rico fight, or Lara fights.

Virtually all the fighters people tried to compare to Shakur are not boring. When i think of comparable I think Sven Ottke. A protected fighter, who fought inferior competition, with a structure looking out for him... And anyone can see that if Ottke had fought some real ****ers, with no preferential treatment, he would have lost. But fighters like Byrd, Ward, Whitaker could all punch! Their defensive wizardly was partially related to their use of offensive actions.

[Left Hook Louie]

I don't care one bit about anyones race , nationality , ***ual preference , religion ,etc. Not in boxing , and not in my personal life. When it comes to boxing , if you're exciting and fun to watch , I'll watch you and support you. If you're boring , I'll still watch you because I love the fights , but I'm not paying for it and will complain that you are boring. Shakur , if everyone is saying that you are boring them , maybe you should listen to what they're saying and change up. Or stay boring and take the criticism like a man. Nobody has ever died from words. If you want to be a big star , I'll tell you how to do that. It starts with GIVING THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. If you're not willing to do that , that's fine , but why whine about it when it's your choice to be lame ? You make your choice and the fans make theirs. Arguing that black people should stick by you just because you are black is a cop out. How about you give them a reason to support you ? Like giving them the excitement that they pay their hard earned money for . I don't think that many fans are going to give you extra credit for having the same skin color.

If Shakur could get one helpful, valuable post from this thread, pnut901 wrote it.
We are often our own worst enemy, and one of the hardest battles in life can be self-acceptance.
Shakur has a gift that so few would ever understand, let alone possess, and one that is making him richer than he will ever need to be.
You do you, Shakur. Don't worry what anyone says. Enjoy your life. Make peace with yourself and who you are.
You are boring. OK. Who gives a fcuk?
It's a beautiful thing if you do it right.

[Smash]

I knew this one was going to bring out the alt right/4chan crowd lol….but while that may be true Shakur,

does that make u part of the crowd?

its actually worse than that, the basement dwellers are also present here in numbers as well

[IAMTHAT]

Wow so many commentators are in agreement.

[tomhawq]

Too bad Tank Davis is not interested in a fight with him. Otherwise, there'd be hope of ending these endless Shakur topics. Let's just hope Zepeda ends it all.

[Lefty0616]

I am a believer that good medicine cures what ails one. Shakur is a young kid whom, like most kids, has a distorted view of himself. has nothing to do with race, so much as our Psychiatric development. It takes a while for a young person to truly understand from a deep abiding connection to experience, that they are not the center of the Universe and, that they are mortal and can be shot, etc. I say this because Shakur and the other young guys who are boxing get a lot more attention, hence the problems stated are worse!

The medicine Shakur needs is when he fights a gifted puncher, like Davis, and gets the Haney treatment. When he realizes that he better develop some skills to hit hard enough not to rely only on defensive actions. When he looks at film of Whitaker and mayweather and realizes that both guys could punch and make an impact.

Most people who understand boxing understand that technically speaking? Shakur has fought nobody really... Nobody who could test him. Even Tank has a better resume.

So either people are wrong and poor Shakur is a boxing prodigy... able to keep anyone away even though his style is boring... Or a fight against a real puncher will show him he better get some chops. I know which possibility here I think is true lol!

Shakur is better than most, by far. Once again we have an opinion that suggests he doesn't punch hard enough to be entertaining or be taken seriously as a threat.

It's also been suggested that he doesn't have a solid resume. Shakur Stevenson hits hard enough; and his power is increasing as he grows into a man. He has also fought solid opposition and he's won decisively. Two opponents who come to mind are James Herring and Oscar Valdez. Shakur took Herring's belt by TKO, and knocked down and beat an undefeated Valdez (who was 30 and 0 at the time), by unanimous decision.

Shakur is dangerous and respected enough in the boxing community in that quite a few boxers avoid him - Loma is one. Folks are calling for Shakur to face Zepeda. I think Shakur outclasses him - so Golden Boy probably won't make that fight.

I dunno is anyone realize this but: Shakur Stevenson's opponents have a collective average of less than 2 losses in their careers. That's impressive. If this is boring, I'm lost as a boxing fan that loves this sweet science. He beats his opponents and they're legitimately decent boxers. The only boxer who I believe can be a nightmare is Tank, and I still give Shakur a chance. Shakur is talented and a sharp boxer.

BUT I call it the Vanilla Ice bandwagon syndrome. We have a lot of followers who allow others to formulate their opinions. 7 million people bought the Vanilla Ice album because they were told he could rap. A lot of people were told that Shakur is boring and they believe it. They'll come a day where a lot of people will say he's exciting, because they are going to be told this, and they're going to believe it....But.....he's not going to change much. He'll be the same boxer......but....It's going to be the Vanilla Ice Syndrome at work

[Slip jab]

Shakur. Unlike yourself, ’s because young black fighters are protected. Teofimo Lopez for instance and the fighters he’s beaten? Compare this Tank but yet Tank is rated top ten p4p gtfoh!!