Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson says 'young black guys' are held to a different standard when it comes to entertaining in the ring

[The Big Dunn]

thats a very broad statement, u are making out tanks fans as angels and loma fans as devils here

No I’m not. I am pointing out how similar actions are treated differently, a point many have made in The thread and what Bhop and Shakur are saying.

[The Big Dunn]

not me, mr fair, here, i think i only called him the email chump once

Ok so you remember, as I said.

[Smash]

Why should he get any? This is the part I don’t get and what Shakur and other posters are speaking about.

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loma getting a bit of slack for the salido fight is totally different to shakur and his situation, if shakur had just fought salido after turning pro like loma did people would say yeah thats a hard fight to have now like it was, if loma was whining like shakur is seemingly a lot and turning down an undisputed fight and then saying he cant get big fights LOL & then having fans walk out of his fight and being very safety first etc, totally different things

[Smash]

No I’m not. I am pointing out how similar actions are treated differently, a point many have made in The thread and what Bhop and Shakur are saying.

are u saying that no tank fan said anything bad or deriding about loma and whatever showboating he did?

[The Big Dunn]

loma getting a bit of slack for the salido fight is totally different to shakur and his situation, if shakur had just fought salido after turning pro like loma did people would say yeah thats a hard fight to have now like it was, if loma was whining like shakur is seemingly a lot and turning down an undisputed fight and then saying he cant get big fights LOL & then having fans walk out of his fight and being very safety first etc, totally different things

Shakur has yet to reach the age Loma was when he turned pro. If Loma had turned pro at the same age Shakur did, he wouldn’t be fighting Salido as you know.

Loma did whine after the Salido loss. He cried like a child after losing to Haney.

How is Shakur any different from Loma here? Loma was claiming he wants Tank and then ducked as soon as negotiations begin.

[The Big Dunn]

are u saying that no tank fan said anything bad or deriding about loma and whatever showboating he did?

You read what I posted. You know exactly what I posted and what I meant.

The different reaction to showboating from Loma’s fans. Other posters have mentioned same.

I saw Tank fans pointing out the hypocrisy in real time.

[Smash]

You read what I posted. You know exactly what I posted and what I meant.

The different reaction to showboating from Loma’s fans. Other posters have mentioned same.

I saw Tank fans pointing out the hypocrisy in real time.

its a bit of a dangerous game when it goes to something like, oh the reaction to this thing years ago was different to the reaction to this thing years later, as far as i remember of course, i think anyway

i mean the reaction from who exactly, is this based on a handful of poster on this site? lol if it is they its needs careful reconsideration i would say

[billeau2]

Absolutely! If Shakur gets in the ring with a KO artist like Tank, it'll be sink or swim. Davis knows Stevenson can't punch and so he'll walk him down, tire him out, then go for the finish. Shakur had better come up with something that keeps punchers like Davis honest or keep fighting boring fights with b and c level opponents.

I mean it makes perfect sense right? I think people sometimes do not see trends:

1. they assume that some of the other great defensive fighters did not need to be able to punch with power.
2. They think Shakur has dealt with that smoke because he beat a couple of work man like fighters, including with a KO.
3. They do not look carefully at the issues in the lower weight classes. Power is Golden. Fighters like Broner were destroyed because their power did not carry up... Power is necessary for guys to do virtually everything else...

[The Big Dunn]

its a bit of a dangerous game when it goes to something like, oh the reaction to this thing years ago was different to the reaction to this thing years later, as far as i remember of course, i think anyway

i mean the reaction from who exactly, is this based on a handful of poster on this site? lol if it is they its needs careful reconsideration i would say

Naw. We just need to be willing to have an open discussion about the point Shakur raised and the criticism he gets.

As to the criticism- the point he makes doesn’t imo apply to him. As to his point about difference in treatment - it is valid and fair.

[Smash]

As to the criticism- the point he makes doesn’t imo apply to him. As to his point about difference in treatment - it is valid and fair.

the guys u are talking about, tanks and floyds etc are the ppv guys in the sport, they make the cash so thats king at the end of the day, the other guys the lomas and gggs cant sell a ppv, remember ggg was mr 29k or something for a long time, thats the bottom line, u are saying some people dont get their due or respect or whatever, well they do & the rest