Comments Thread For: Marvin Hagler, Terence Crawford, and the importance of knowing when to settle down

[TheOneAboveAll]

Nah nah nah, Marvelous Marvin Hagler is most famous for being one of boxing's greatest ever champions & the guy who blown-up WW's & LMW's were considered suicidal to even think about fighting.

To be a blown-up LW & think about fighting Marvelous, you had to be Duran.

Who is Marvelous Marvin Hagler without those three fights? Every fighter's record is subject to scrutiny, especially those who would claim ATG status. Hagler was objectively a great fighter, but it is important to put his record and wins in context. He is primarily famous for fighting smaller greats of his day.

[crisantonio917]

Mentioning these guys in the same sentence is an insult to the memory of one of the greatest ever, Marvelous Marvin Hagler....

[MulaKO]

How about all the WW at the time he moved up? He priced himself out constantly and used that as an excuse while everyone else beat each other up. He waited until every was at the end of their run before he considered fighting them. Not too mention he ducked
Ennis and has no desire fighting the best and is only looking for a money grab with Canelo.

Show me the proof that he priced himself out ???
And once I read your post stating that Bud avoided fughin Boots , lmao , I know your full of chit
Shoe proof or it just shows your hate for Bud
We’re you a Spence fan , is that what brought the hate or did you always dislike him ???

[wrecksracer]

Check the records. Hearns did move up to fight Hagler. In fact, Hagler's three biggest fights (Hearns, Duran, SRL), the ones that made him famous, were against guys moving up in weight. Two of those opponents' best weights were 2-4 weight classes below MW. These are not insignificant facts when evaluating and comparing ATGs.

Less famous Middleweight talent that Hagler faced would lay waste to today's Middleweights. Hamsho and Mugabi would beat everybody that guys like GGG and Martinez beat. It's not like Hager only fought SRL, Hearns, and Duran. He beat a much deeper pool of Middleweights than is present today.

[BrankoB]

I hear you. You also have to admit, Bud fought the best of his era, or at least, the best that would fight him. Aside from Pacquiao and Mikey Garcia, who did But miss throughout his career?

He fought the best available and he desperately wanted to fight Pacman but Bob Arum never offered it to him as he was protecting his cash cow. By the way, I was a huge Pacman fan when he was active and at his peak. Pacman that beat up Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton was virtually unbeatable, but Pacquiao that lost to Horn would have been embarassed by Crawford.

[CarlW]

Crawford has already reached "all time great" status. If he cleans out this current talent rich division, I would argue for his being a top 10 ATG. He needs to beat Madrimov again, Tszyu, Fundora, and the Ortiz/Bohachuk winner. Add Conwell and Ramos for frosting. I'm not a fan boy of Crawford and would bet against him accomplishing this, but if he did, the naysayers would have to silence themselves or further confirm what fools they are.

[57Blues]

i is not a very good comparison why even attempt to write it up ...............

[TheOneAboveAll]

Less famous Middleweight talent that Hagler faced would lay waste to today's Middleweights. Hamsho and Mugabi would beat everybody that guys like GGG and Martinez beat. It's not like Hager only fought SRL, Hearns, and Duran. He beat a much deeper pool of Middleweights than is present today.

GGG beats everyone you named. I didn't say Hagler wasn't a great fighter. Read my prior posts. I said he was objectively great, but that he is MOST famous (and regarded as an ATG) for his three fights against smaller contemporary greats. Without those fights, nobody but the hardest of hardcore fans would be talking about him today. That should not really be in dispute.

[SUBZER0ED]

Hagler was a great fighter with great promotion and great opposition. Crawford is a very good fighter with poor promotion for most of his career and not so great opponents. And now at nearly 37 years old, he hopes to face the biggest name in boxing and get a huge retirement check. But with the latest apparent pissing match between Canelo and Alalshiek coupled with Bud's hard fight vs Madrimov, that huge retirement check looks very distant.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Hagler is most famous for fighting blown up LWs and WWs.

Negative - Atg Hagler was famous for his relentless fan-friendly aggressive style, and his willingness to go to war with anyone who dared to stand their ground. Your ridiculous assertion above is crap! Hearns, Duran, and Leonard all never went back down below middeweight..they naturally grew out of the weights where they started. Ignorant to say they were “blown-up”! All three were also Atg!!!