Comments Thread For: Marvin Hagler, Terence Crawford, and the importance of knowing when to settle down

[SUBZER0ED]

TBud ucked himself over by being a one fight per year fighter for the last 4 years

Arum said that while he was under Top Rank, Bud demanded more money than he could draw. Then once he left, he did little until he landed the fight vs a damaged Spence. Yet, he's "the best p4p in the world". That ego doe!

[Boxing Scene]

Lol. Ok. Crawford is Hagler now. The guy literally hasn't thought anyone but Spence.

[factsarenice]

How about all the WW at the time he moved up? He priced himself out constantly and used that as an excuse while everyone else beat each other up. He waited until every was at the end of their run before he considered fighting them. Not too mention he ducked Ennis and has no desire fighting the best and is only looking for a money grab with Canelo.

Sorry but you're talking out of your ass, praying that nobody fact checks that BS.

FACT: No one within the PBC ever made Crawford an offer, ever, never happened. Top Rank made an offer to then unbeaten Keith Thruman when Keith was supposed to be the biggest threat in the division. Keith countered with a demand for 10 million guaranteed and instead fought Manny for $2.5 million guaranteed.

FACT: Crawford never priced himself out of anything, case closed.

The only one that didn't fact check your comment were the idiots that liked your comment because they're just as dumb as you are.

[rckdees]

As good as Crawford is he’s not Hagler….champions are not what they we’re back then so many belts out here it’s hard to keep track on who’s the champ…nowadays they’re too busy trying to find the weakest link

[SUBZER0ED]

Lol. Ok. Crawford is Hagler now. The guy literally hasn't thought anyone but Spence.

Spence was to be his true test, but some won't acknowledge that Errol looked horrible, as if something was wrong with him. He had in fact been involved in two accidents- one that should have killed him and another that was a head-on collision. I'll wager that he's suffered significant and cumulative brain trauma from those accidents. The weight cut did him no favors either. Bud is very good, but I seriously doubt that he fought a 100% Spence.

[champion4ever]

Bud is a bad man! He has that dog in him. My one only concern about his performance Saturday night was that he got hit too much by single right hand counters.

While he was never in danger of being stopped or hurt; Yet those were still some eye-catching punches being landed by Madrimov.

The trade off was by fighting in the south paw stance it probably prevented him from being stopped. It forced Madrimov to throw those single counter right hands in over drive .

Since Israil Madrimov’s jab was being neutralized and he couldn’t land any combination punches; It forced him to land only single punches at a time that Terence saw coming.

[TheOneAboveAll]

I think what you mean to say is that after Hagler totally cleared out a very tough middleweight division, he took the biggest money fights available to him just like anybody else would have done. In no way was Hearns smaller than him, either. He had height, reach, and ended up fighting as high as Cruiserweight.

Before we digress too much, let's return to the original discussion. Again, I have given Marvin Hagler full credit for his accomplishments, and I regard him as a great in the sport. My main point before you began to redirect the discussion was that his PRINICPAL claim to fame is having fought three other SMALLER great contemporaries. Do you argue this point? Without those fights on his record, he doesn't get mentioned past the 80s. You yourself bring up Mustafa Hamsho and John Mugabi as, ostensibly, his next most significant fights. WHAT THE HELL did midget Mustafa Hamsho ever do in this sport to make you jump up and down and declare him to be some legendary win (twice) for Hagler?!? Never a champion, not even close (unless you count champ of Syria). What did the 'legend' John Mugabi ever do but lose (mostly by KO) every time he stepped up to world level competition?

You have the gall to state that those guys would not only last more than 5 rounds with GGG, but actually beat him. I should ban you for insolence. GGG ruins ever fighter Hagler ever beat, in half the time. As far as Hearns fighting at Cruiserweight. Yes he did; a decade after he fought Hagler. His first ever fight at MW was when he moved up to fight Hagler.

[factsarenice]

Arum said that while he was under Top Rank, Bud demanded more money than he could draw. Then once he left, he did little until he landed the fight vs a damaged Spence. Yet, he's "the best p4p in the world". That ego doe!

Bud didn't demand shyt, that's not even how contracts work. Arum signed Bud to a multi fight deal with a minimum...period....once it's signed there is no negotiating.

Bob got the fights he could but none of the 147 names at the PBC were willing to fight Crawford. Keith demanded 10 million then fought Manny for a guaranteed 2.5 million, Arum offered Danny Garcia 5 million and Danny instead fought Granados for 1 million. Arum couldn't get fights for Crawford so Terrence Crawford left. Crawford fought Shawn Porter for a guaranteed 6 million + PPV, then successfully sued Top Rank, Fought Avanesyan for $10 million and Spence for 25 million.

[factsarenice]

Bud is a bad man! He has that dog in him. My one only concern about his performance Saturday night was that he got hit too much by single right hand counters.

While he was never in danger of being stopped or hurt; Yet those were still some eye-catching punches being landed by Madrimov.

The trade off was by fighting in the south paw stance it probably prevented him from being stopped. It forced Madrimov to throw those single counter right hands in over drive .

Since Israil Madrimov’s jab was being neutralized and he couldn’t land any combination punches; It forced him to land only single punches at a time that Terence saw coming.

I need to go back and look at that again but that explains a lot. You really dissected the hell out of that, great stuff!

[THC]

To be a blown-up LW & think about fighting Marvelous, you had to be Duran.

You on it. They comprise one half of the Fab 4. Enough said.