Comments Thread For: Marvin Hagler, Terence Crawford, and the importance of knowing when to settle down

[Phase III]

The importance of staying in your lane and hustling for only a big pay check.

I don’t agree with Canelo’s views of what he calls creditable opponents, but, I applaud him for telling Turkie to take his blood money and shove it where the sun don’t shine.

[factsarenice]

Spence was to be his true test, but some won't acknowledge that Errol looked horrible, as if something was wrong with him. He had in fact been involved in two accidents- one that should have killed him and another that was a head-on collision. I'll wager that he's suffered significant and cumulative brain trauma from those accidents. The weight cut did him no favors either. Bud is very good, but I seriously doubt that he fought a 100% Spence.

I'm sorry but weight only becomes an issue if you gas out or slow down and neither of those happened. Any issues with brain damage show up in a lack of punch resistance and I didn't see that either.

What I did see were two things, one,Spence got caught a lot off balance and went down and got right up. Two, Errol Spence had a plan A and when that it didn't work there was no plan B because plan A never failed. By the later rounds the accumulation of punches eventually took effect but that would happen to anyone.

I always said the fight would play out exactly the way it did. Styles make fights and nobody, not even Canelo Alvarez can just walk straight in think they can just power through a guy like Crawford or Jaron Ennis. Power alone is not enough, not until they are very old..

[greeneye99]

Arum said that while he was under Top Rank, Bud demanded more money than he could draw. Then once he left, he did little until he landed the fight vs a damaged Spence. Yet, he's "the best p4p in the world". That ego doe!

It makes me laugh......
You & Not one Fan mentioned ErrolSpenceJr as Damaged before the Crawford Fight
Errol Spence was gonna KO Terrence Crawford
But now that
Spence lost & You say Crawford beat a damaged Spence
Smh

[LAchargers373]

It makes me laugh......
You & Not one Fan mentioned ErrolSpenceJr as Damaged before the Crawford Fight
Errol Spence was gonna KO Terrence Crawford
But now that
Spence lost & You say Crawford beat a damaged Spence
Smh

Bwhahaha it’s captain save a bud as usual acting like Terence Crawford is his personal friend ROFL. Pinkeye ftw lmao

[joseph5620]

Before we digress too much, let's return to the original discussion. Again, I have given Marvin Hagler full credit for his accomplishments, and I regard him as a great in the sport. My main point before you began to redirect the discussion was that his PRINICPAL claim to fame is having fought three other SMALLER great contemporaries. Do you argue this point? Without those fights on his record, he doesn't get mentioned past the 80s. You yourself bring up Mustafa Hamsho and John Mugabi as, ostensibly, his next most significant fights. WHAT THE HELL did midget Mustafa Hamsho ever do in this sport to make you jump up and down and declare him to be some legendary win (twice) for Hagler?!? Never a champion, not even close (unless you count champ of Syria). What did the 'legend' John Mugabi ever do but lose (mostly by KO) every time he stepped up to world level competition?

You have the gall to state that those guys would not only last more than 5 rounds with GGG, but actually beat him. I should ban you for insolence. GGG ruins ever fighter Hagler ever beat, in half the time. As far as Hearns fighting at Cruiserweight. Yes he did; a decade after he fought Hagler. His first ever fight at MW was when he moved up to fight Hagler.

That's funny considering the best fighter Golovkin faced outside of Canelo was Danny Jacobs. How did that turn out? Golovkin struggled everytime he stepped up.That in itself makes your statement ignorant along with your claim that Hagler was bigger than Hearns.

[Oregonian]

Today's writers are an embarrassment, seriously comparing Hagler to Crawford. Hagler fought the murderous row of his ERA, can someone please tell me who Crawford has exactly fought?

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Not just that but look at this line, “having thrashed Errol Spence so convincingly last July, Crawford is now without any natural rivals and therefore stranded, unmoored”

This writer either has no clue who Boots is or is just an instrument used by the powers that be to peddle lies. A clear case of the pen being mightier than the sword.

[uppercut510]

ive heard some criticize hagler for staying in one division his whole career. what say you guys?

[SUBZER0ED]

It makes me laugh......
You & Not one Fan mentioned ErrolSpenceJr as Damaged before the Crawford Fight
Errol Spence was gonna KO Terrence Crawford
But now that
Spence lost & You say Crawford beat a damaged Spence
Smh

Not true. I mentioned it a long time ago, shortly after his first accident. But then after he beat Garcia and Ugas, I thought maybe he was ok. And then he had a second accident, that was a head-on collision. I have a buddy who suffered brain trauma from playing football years ago. He was KO'd during practice. He seemed ok, then some 30 years later, he got hit by a bicyclist while on foot patrol as a cop. He had to learn how to speak again. The Drs told him that he must be careful to avoid any head trauma whatsoever for the rest of his life, or he could be severely disabled. Brain damage is cumulative, my friend.

[SUBZER0ED]

ive heard some criticize hagler for staying in one division his whole career. what say you guys?

People who hate fighters that are dominant in their division demand that they move up, so they can lose to someone who is naturally bigger than them. Then the haters can say, "See, I told you he was a hype job!"

[steeve steel]

Finally an honest assessment of the fight from a crawford fan. I thought he won but it was very close. A draw wouldn’t have been uncalled for but I felt like bud won by 2 rounds. That’s pretty damn close. I think he’ll do well against tsyzu but Ortiz is going to be a big problem for him imo. Might be wrong I have been before lol

Both fights won't be easy. Tzyzu might be trickier because of his patience. Ortiz comes forward and that suits Bud cause he can show off defensive skills and counter.