Comments Thread For: It's official: Canelo Alvarez to face Edgar Berlanga on September 14 in Las Vegas

[billeau2]

If old Bumlanga pulls this off lol

Bumlanga is going to do incredible things! He will show everyone! lol... Just kidding. I gather they just got this kid a cash out fight fit for a king. Like Breadman said in his column... If Edgar can just last, make an effort... he is set for the rest of a fair to middlin' career.

[billeau2]

Bivol offered to come down to Canelo's weight to FACILITATE him but Canelo crapped his pants yet again like the numerous other times he has done so in his career.

Resume's belong on sheets of paper. If there was any truth to what you are saying why is it that the sheer mention of Benavidez's name is enough for Canelo to lose control of his bowel functions. Even his own fans started booing him after the Munguia fight when he was probed on the Benny fight but couldn't give a straight answer. His own fans are beginning to see the fibre of his cowardice. It's got to the point now that he can't even hide it from them anymore

Geez... Cowardis really? Fans should really start being salty with the promoters, with the judges... demand fights on free networks, demand standerdized judging, kick the likes of Arum , who has perhaps destroyed more epic fights than even the British Boxing Board, which wanted to stop Chisora versus Haye... to the curb, along with all the alphabet soup organizations...

But no... they would rather take a great fighter, who wants to leave the sport with the same IQ he came into it with... and call him a coward. Nobody is forcing fans to buy these fights... Canelo will not starve. But lets not question the guy's gut check just yet.

[BodyBagz]

Bivol wanted to run it back at 175lbs but Canelo only offered him the same 2 million again... To the champion who already beat him once?? That is what we call a low ball! Very similar in nature to when Canelo asked for 200 million to fight Benavidez - yes the same guy who's resume you are constantly ridiculing. Perhaps Canelo knows something about Benny that you don't, hey?

The links I've read only mentioned Biv not being interested.

So, you would be impressed with Nelo if he had Benny's resume

Good to know

[Elastic Recoilz]

Geez... Cowardis really? Fans should really start being salty with the promoters, with the judges... demand fights on free networks, demand standerdized judging, kick the likes of Arum , who has perhaps destroyed more epic fights than even the British Boxing Board, which wanted to stop Chisora versus Haye... to the curb, along with all the alphabet soup organizations...

But no... they would rather take a great fighter, who wants to leave the sport with the same IQ he came into it with... and call him a coward. Nobody is forcing fans to buy these fights... Canelo will not starve. But lets not question the guy's gut check just yet.

Canelo has previous for this type of behaviour not to mention Benavidez was his mandatory of 3 years but he has made every excuse under the sun to avoid him. He is every bit the coward and now even his staunchest of defenders are beginning to turn their backs on him.

[Elastic Recoilz]

The links I've read only mentioned Biv not being interested.

So, you would be impressed with Nelo if he had Benny's resume

Good to know

I could easily counter that crap you posted with factual info that proves that Bivol is Canelo's father and in possession of his soul with regards to negotiations but its pretty evident you can't even see 5 yards in front of yourself due to all of Canelo's jizz in your eyes...

[BodyBagz]

I could easily counter that crap you posted with factual info ...

Who's stopping you

Glad you would be Nelo's biggest fan boy if he had Benny's resume.

At this rate, Benny is sure to be a 1st ballot HOFer

[Elastic Recoilz]

Who's stopping you

Glad you would be Nelo's biggest fan boy if he had Benny's resume.

At this rate, Benny is sure to be a 1st ballot HOFer

The world knows Canelo is shook of Benny, CANELO HIMSELF realises he is shook of Benny, the only person who doesn't is some melt from a forum called BodyBagz who weirdly keeps repeating the same thing about resumes like a degenerate but when pressed on Canelo's avoidance of said guy has nothing of note to say...

[BodyBagz]

The world knows

JCC Jr resume > Benny's

You - "Resumes dont mean anything."

[El Más Loco]

Over 50%…in Mexico…not as a top five…?

In popularity…? In skill set…? In accomplishments…?

Where did you get this information? Was this an article? A poll? Was it from just one source? How many people were asked? A mere 100? 200?

I wonder how many people that get asked/or got asked to name the top fighters of their country what are they basing it on…and if all those people that were asked those same questions watch boxing as much as say someone like a Steve Kim, Dan Rafael, Cus D’ Amato back when he was alive.

On top of that, you’d be surprised how many people from the general public will just mindlessly regurgitate opinions but can’t back up their stance when put on the spot.

You’re out in the street doing public interviews trying to get a feel for who do people think is the best Mexican fighter. You stop five random people. You pose the question: “Canelo or Chavez?”

If they’re 45 and over, most likely they’ll say Chavez.
If younger, they might still say Chavez but some Canelo.

And then sometimes, SOMETIMES, you’ll get someone that’ll scrunch up their face acting undignified when you pose them the question and they’ll say, “Chavez! Are you kidding me? Canelo never fought anyone of note!” And then you come back at them with, “Okay, name me 5 fighters Chavez beat that were highly significant.” And then they just stammer and look stumped trying to rattle off a couple names or three at best. Of course the names exist, but a lot of people aren’t equipped to partake in who’s a good fighter or not because the general public is just that…the general public.

Hell, the general public is going to eat up Canelo-Berlanga but that’s because they don’t know any better.

So again, based on who and where are you pulling this “over 50% in Mexico don’t look at him as a top fighter”? Canelo isn’t a hype job, sir. And I’m not saying or implying he’s better than Chavez (before anyone charges at me with pitchforks and torches).

I’ll take a stab at who are “the top 5 Mexican boxers” right now over Canelo (according to this “source”):

1. Benavidez (Mexican-American…but sure, let’s count him as “Mexican” for argument’s sake)

2. Isaac Cruz

3. William Zepeda

4. Jesse Rodriguez (Mexican-American…?)

5. Oscar Valdez

Am I warm? Marco!…Polo!…

You typed all that just to create a straw man argument?

I never said top 5 as in current Mexican fighters...nice try. When I said top 5 Mexicans I was talking OF ALL TIME.

And I don't need to go out and take polls, anyone with a brain can see this. From the reception of the Mexican fan base, the media, his history with Televisa (which i doubt you know about), etc etc.

But hey just continue making up in your head talking points I never made. You're about as intelligent as your paisano Berlanga.

[TintaBoricua]

You typed all that just to create a straw man argument?

I never said top 5 as in current Mexican fighters...nice try. When I said top 5 Mexicans I was talking OF ALL TIME.

And I don't need to go out and take polls, anyone with a brain can see this. From the reception of the Mexican fan base, the media, his history with Televisa (which i doubt you know about), etc etc.

But hey just continue making up in your head talking points I never made. You're about as intelligent as your paisano Berlanga.

Ewww…just no.

You said top five in your original post, you didn’t actually specify all time. But I’ll acquiesce.

Second, out of curiosity, you don’t think Canelo is at least somewhere in the top 10 Mexican fighters (of all time)?

He’s gotta’ be up there regardless of whatever alienation he may have done to his fan base in Mexico and his reluctance to fight Benny.