Comments Thread For: It's official: Canelo Alvarez to face Edgar Berlanga on September 14 in Las Vegas

[billeau2]

Canelo has previous for this type of behaviour not to mention Benavidez was his mandatory of 3 years but he has made every excuse under the sun to avoid him. He is every bit the coward and now even his staunchest of defenders are beginning to turn their backs on him.

Coward? Bit strong considering most will not even jump in a ring... Fans love to throw such terms around... Lewis was a "coward" to some after he gut checked and beat Vitalie, because he did not grant a rematch... Canelo has nothing to prove to anyone and he is not a coward.

[garfios]

Who's stopping you

Glad you would be Nelo's biggest fan boy if he had Benny's resume.

At this rate, Benny is sure to be a 1st ballot HOFer

Well, he is acting like one.

[El Más Loco]

Ewww…just no.

You said top five in your original post, you didn’t actually specify all time. But I’ll acquiesce.

Second, out of curiosity, you don’t think Canelo is at least somewhere in the top 10 Mexican fighters (of all time)?

He’s gotta’ be up there regardless of whatever alienation he may have done to his fan base in Mexico and his reluctance to fight Benny.

I have him in the top 10 but definitely not top 5. Canelo still doesn't even have a career-defining legacy clean win against an in prime HOF caliber level fighter.

[TintaBoricua]

I have him in the top 10 but definitely not top 5. Canelo still doesn't even have a career-defining legacy clean win against an in prime HOF caliber level fighter.

Alright, that’s fair.

*Joe Cortez voice: “Break clean! Break clean!”

I think GGG gets into the HOF eventually, though. Maybe not in his first year, but at worst in this third year of eligibility. Those nearly 20 middleweight title defenses weren’t for nothing. I don’t think GGG was past it when Canelo fought him in my opinion. Some people like to bring up the Jacobs as the writing on the wall that GGG was past it but Jacobs was still very good back then. And I thought that Jacobs a few years later did much better against Canelo than the judges gave him credit for.

Anyway…maybe toppling Benavidez will dispel that notion eventually.

Not Berlanga, though. **** that dude. Lol

[just the facts]

JCC Jr resume > Benny's

You - "Resumes dont mean anything."

Dumb, even for you.

[El Más Loco]

Alright, that’s fair.

*Joe Cortez voice: “Break clean! Break clean!”

I think GGG gets into the HOF eventually, though. Maybe not in his first year, but at worst in this third year of eligibility. Those nearly 20 middleweight title defenses weren’t for nothing. I don’t think GGG was past it when Canelo fought him in my opinion. Some people like to bring up the Jacobs as the writing on the wall that GGG was past it but Jacobs was still very good back then. And I thought that Jacobs a few years later did much better against Canelo than the judges gave him credit for.

Anyway…maybe toppling Benavidez will dispel that notion eventually.

Not Berlanga, though. **** that dude. Lol

Canelo and GGG are for sure going into the Hall of Fame, probably both first ballot too imo. I think Jacobs will also eventfully make it too, in a weaker year.

Canelo beating Jacobs is one of the better fights on Canelo's resume but Jacobs alreaady had 2 losses which is why it's not the legacy defining fight Canelo needs. I had Canelo edging out a victory in the 2nd GGG fight but it wasn't clear cut for most thus leaving a sour taste in most people's mouth.

Canelo clearly beating Benavidez or rematching Bivol and getting the victory would be that special moment were even his biggest detractors are forced to accept his is a legendary fighter.

From my point of view I have Canelo tagged as a great fighter but not legendary, at that seems to be common notion amongst Mexican fans and media (from Mexico). All legends are great but not all greats are legends.

[BodyBagz]

Dumb, even for you.

Lemme guess, DooDoo is a solid W
JCCjr would ragdoll 97% of everyone Benny fought

[TintaBoricua]

Canelo and GGG are for sure going into the Hall of Fame, probably both first ballot too imo. I think Jacobs will also eventfully make it too, in a weaker year.

Canelo beating Jacobs is one of the better fights on Canelo's resume but Jacobs alreaady had 2 losses which is why it's not the legacy defining fight Canelo needs. I had Canelo edging out a victory in the 2nd GGG fight but it wasn't clear cut for most thus leaving a sour taste in most people's mouth.

Canelo clearly beating Benavidez or rematching Bivol and getting the victory would be that special moment were even his biggest detractors are forced to accept his is a legendary fighter.

From my point of view I have Canelo tagged as a great fighter but not legendary, at that seems to be common notion amongst Mexican fans and media (from Mexico). All legends are great but not all greats are legends.

Those are fair points.

I think the first GGG-Canelo fight was shaky, but I thought Canelo was more convincing in the second. Both were close, but I see where you’re coming from.

Beating Bivol in a rematch where everyone would have Canelo as a major underdog would be a big deal. I think Bivol is a more difficult mountain to climb because Bivol is naturally bigger, fine tuned boxer, and just absolutely disciplined.

If I were Canelo, I’d take Benavidez over Bivol in a heartbeat. Canelo can’t beat a 175 pounder of that caliber.

[just the facts]

Lemme guess, DooDoo is a solid W
JCCjr would ragdoll 97% of everyone Benny fought

Again, dumb, even for you.

[BodyBagz]

Again, dumb, even for you.

"Legacy defining fight" will need Nelo's name attached.
No one needs these boogeymen. Their resumes are straight garbage. Nothing to gain.

DooDoo, doe
Plant UD12, doe
Exactly how one becomes the face of boxing