Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford says Canelo Alvarez at 168 pounds 'makes the most sense'

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

So the fact that Postol beat Matthysse 2 years after DSG is irrelevant? Beating Jeff Horn, Benavidez, Khan, Brook, and Porter (again after Spence beat him) was proving himself? All Bud had to do was not sign the extension, and go where the best were fighting at! He still wound having to do it anyway, and glad he had done it too! Boots was chasing the same man Bud was chasing, in the same division, under the same sanctioning body, on the same network! IBF publicly admitted they f-d up! Bud beat the Boogeyman, and the IBF ordered Bud to fight Boots, and Bud denied Boots of the opportunity! It’s all Boots’ fault! DAMN!

Are you trying to say Matthysse was shot or something? What does that make the likes of Judah you listed as a notable win for Garcia? Just stop man, you’re embarrassing yourself.

Crawford had already proven himself, lineal at 135, undisputed at 140, champion at 147. Boots got a belt via gmail. The comparison you made was nonsense.

[Bronx2245]

Here's some things we can agree on:

IBF SHOULD have ordered Spence to fight Boots years ago.

Bud should have left Top Rank instead of extending.

I hope Bud does beat Canelo if that fight happens.

Now Boots has signed with Hearn rather than going where the fights were. But that's not an issue, and Boots hasn't done anything wrong?

Madrimov has a belt at 154, so he represents better options, since Charlo went AWOL and vacated all his belts, Tszyu lost, Fundora is ducking to fight Spence, and Bud can likely force a WBO unification whenever he wants as WBO super champ at 147. If he wins vs Madrimov it makes him a 4 division champ, sets him up to fight for 3 division undisputed, and potentially makes a Canelo fight look more realistic. If he fights Ennis, he gets back the belt he already won that was taken from him out of the ring, and beats a guy who has never won a world title in the ring, and whose only titlist name on the resume is a faded Lipinets, who won a vacant title at 140 vs Akihiro Kondo, then promptly lost it to a guy who lost to both Spence AND Sandor Martin. It's wild you don't understand why Madrimov is the better fight for Bud's resume.

It's funny you believe Bozy about some things, but not when he literally admits on camera that they got an offer and turned it down. Holy double standards, Batman.

I’ve criticized Boots’ decision to sign with MR, I’ve criticized Boots for trying to be undisputed in a weak division, all thing I’ve criticized Crawford for! However I’m not gonna let Crawford, nor Spence, nor Thurman, slide without pointing out their hypocrisy for treating Boots, the same way they complain about being treated!

[Elastic Recoilz]

Canelo beating bud means fuq all in the same way "undisputed vs undisputed" Canelo vs Charlo meant chit. His moronic fans will forever put it down as some miraculous achievement.

Crawford has to get past Madrimov first though - I favour Madrimov in that one. I have a 24/1 double on Madrimov & Dubois wins, £25 on and to be honest I'm quite confident of landing it.

[Oregonian]

Crawford was a 3 weight world champion and former undisputed champion. Ennis got his belt via email.

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Was Bud a 3 weight champion at 27 years old?

[Bronx2245]

Are you trying to say Matthysse was shot or something? What does that make the likes of Judah you listed as a notable win for Garcia? Just stop man, you’re embarrassing yourself.

Crawford had already proven himself, lineal at 135, undisputed at 140, champion at 147. Boots got a belt via gmail. The comparison you made was nonsense.

How did Boots get a belt via email? Who was the fighter that decided not to fight, when the IBF ordered the fight? Who could that be?

I never said anything about SHOT FIGHTERS, however Bud literally fought a fighter that had been shot! You just can’t make this s—t up! Lol! Haney proved himself @ 135, and 140! Wasn’t he undisputed? His only loss is to a guy who missed weight, and used PEDs? The WBC changed the decision to NC. Has he proved himself worthy of a title shot at 147 more than Boots? By your logic, I guess so?

[boxing IQ]

It's not Bud's fault Boots can't make a name for himself on his own.

Everyone moves up after they unify. Why are we still talking about this?

[factsarenice]

If Turki offers him $25 million to fight Boots @ 154 early 2025, should he take it, or wait and hope for Canelo, who already said fighting Canelo is a lose-lose for him?

You bring up some valid points and yes, Turki has shown interest in the idea of Crawford/Ennis but hasn't committed to it like he has with Canelo/Crawford and won't, not until Canelo/Crawford is off the table. Even then, Ennis would need to move up, and 25 million is a lot for an relatively unknown and Crawford isn't likely to fight for less. Assuming Turki is all about big fights the biggest fights from 140-168 are Canelo/Benavedaz or Canelo/Crawford. Those fights are up Canelo but all things being equal, I expect Canelo to choose Crawford, especially for the same money. As for Canelo claiming that Crawford is a lose / lose, Canelo also said he doesn't fight Mexicans until Mugiua and was in a lose/lose with Charlo and Eubank but that didn't and doesn't seem to matter. Canelo does whatever he wants and says whatever he needs to and doesn't care who likes it.

It's a hard call, Ennis may still get Crawford but IMO, the timing isn't right and the money isn't there. In the end, Eddie Hearn may actually be forced to promote and pay for the fights that will make Ennis a super star and not do to him what he did to Andrade, because that was a criminal.

I could be wrong, things may change... it's just the way I see it right now

[boxing IQ]

If Boots is as good as he claims, why not go to 154?

Vergil Ortiz, whose younger, did. And to fight the previous #1 guy in Tszyu.

What's Boots' excuse? Not enough Karens?

[GhostofDempsey]

Crawford is looking for a big payday and some career defining legacy building fights. Ennis doesn't do much for his legacy or his bank account. Besides, Canelo is a more dangerous fight. I still favor Bud over Canelo at 168. That would be a huge win for him if he can pull it off.

[Bronx2245]

You bring up some valid points and yes, Turki has shown interest in the idea of Crawford/Ennis but hasn't committed to it like he has with Canelo/Crawford and won't, not until Canelo/Crawford is off the table. Even then, Ennis would need to move up, and 25 million is a lot for an relatively unknown and Crawford isn't likely to fight for less. Assuming Turki is all about big fights the biggest fights from 140-168 are Canelo/Benavedaz or Canelo/Crawford. Those fights are up Canelo but all things being equal, I expect Canelo to choose Crawford, especially for the same money. As for Canelo claiming that Crawford is a lose / lose, Canelo also said he doesn't fight Mexicans until Mugiua and was in a lose/lose with Charlo and Eubank but that didn't and doesn't seem to matter. Canelo does whatever he wants and says whatever he needs to and doesn't care who likes it.

It's a hard call, Ennis may still get Crawford but IMO, the timing isn't right and the money isn't there. In the end, Eddie Hearn may actually be forced to promote and pay for the fights that will make Ennis a super star and not do to him what he did to Andrade, because that was a criminal.

I could be wrong, things may change... it's just the way I see it right now

Turki doesn’t seem ready to pay Canelo for what Canelo demands for Benavidez! He definitely seems interested in Bud vs. Boots! As usual, all the cards are in Canelo’s hands! All that “Undisputed” talk by Eddie and Boots is dumb as f-k!