Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford says Canelo Alvarez at 168 pounds 'makes the most sense'

[crimsonfalcon07]

So you’re just going to ignore Bozy statement in the article of October 2022? Are you going to ignore the admission by the IBF, that they waited too long to make an Interim Champion to face Spence? So there’s no convincing you, no matter what! You keep believing Boots is afraid, while Crawford keeps telling us why it doesn’t make sense to fight Boots!

Let's see, what's more reliable, Bozy making claims, or the actual filed petitions? What's more reliable, Bozy making a statement, or Bozy on camera admitting they turned down the offer to fight Bud? What's more reliable, his record of zero big fights, or Bozy saying everyone is afraid to fight him?

Should IBF have ordered Spence to fight him? Obviously yes. But Ennis' team waited, 3 of 3 times now, to file for their shot until there was an obstacle in the way of the fight.

Everything you're talking about is literally just things people said after the fact to try to spin things. The FACTS are that Ennis' team waited to file petition one until Stanionis filed his, waited to file petition 2 until Bud v Spence was made, and waited on petition 3 until Spence activated his rematch clause. The FACTS are that he's got zero top 8 fights on his 32 fight resume. The FACTS are that Bozy is on camera admitting to turning down a fight offer to fight Bud. The FACTS are that Ennis chose IBF when Bud was defending the WBO belt. Are you choosing to ignore the preponderance of actual evidence in favor of claims made by Bozy?

Do you think he's going to show to Bud's fight on August 3? Yes or no.

He's got an opportunity to prove he wants that fight. If he's not there, mark my words it's because he's using Crawford for clout but he doesn't actually want the fight. Is he going to fight Stanionis, Barrios, or Norman next, or a top guy at 154? Or does he stay inactive to fight Crowley, or the likes of Alexis Rocha or Cissokho? I'd love for him to actually step up and prove he's more than eye test. I think he's the goods. But he's got to do more than let his pops run his mouth while fighting lower tier opponents. Right now, he's not worth anything, as Bud says. He's got nothing and nobody on his resume. Bud had already been undisputed at 140 along with his previous world titles when he was in Boots' spot. If Bud beats him, you'll just say he was too green, and point to his terrible resume. Bud was already willing to fight him when Spence wouldn't, and they turned it down. For Showtime, which isn't even in the boxing business any more. If you think he's actually the goods, you should be right here with me wanting him to PROVE IT.

[factsarenice]

In every interview Eddie Hearn and Ennis say they'll unify 147lb and then fight Terrence Crawford. Sounds good but if you do the math its not happening. So what is happening?

Eddie simply doesn't want to pay Jaron's opponents and other than clout chasing, Eddie has no plan to promote Jaron Ennis at 147, or 154 or any other weight class. Eddie has Ennis convinced he has some grand plan but if calling out one fighter moving up is all Eddie has, Jaron will go down as the worst promoted fighter and waste of talent in history.

People say follow the money because it's always about money and Eddie doesn't want to spend HIS money on Ennis.

[Bronx2245]

Let's see, what's more reliable, Bozy making claims, or the actual filed petitions? What's more reliable, Bozy making a statement, or Bozy on camera admitting they turned down the offer to fight Bud? What's more reliable, his record of zero big fights, or Bozy saying everyone is afraid to fight him?

Should IBF have ordered Spence to fight him? Obviously yes. But Ennis' team waited, 3 of 3 times now, to file for their shot until there was an obstacle in the way of the fight.

Everything you're talking about is literally just things people said after the fact to try to spin things. The FACTS are that Ennis' team waited to file petition one until Stanionis filed his, waited to file petition 2 until Bud v Spence was made, and waited on petition 3 until Spence activated his rematch clause. The FACTS are that he's got zero top 8 fights on his 32 fight resume. The FACTS are that Bozy is on camera admitting to turning down a fight offer to fight Bud. The FACTS are that Ennis chose IBF when Bud was defending the WBO belt. Are you choosing to ignore the preponderance of actual evidence in favor of claims made by Bozy?

Do you think he's going to show to Bud's fight on August 3? Yes or no.

He's got an opportunity to prove he wants that fight. If he's not there, mark my words it's because he's using Crawford for clout but he doesn't actually want the fight. Is he going to fight Stanionis, Barrios, or Norman next, or a top guy at 154? Or does he stay inactive to fight Crowley, or the likes of Alexis Rocha or Cissokho? I'd love for him to actually step up and prove he's more than eye test. I think he's the goods. But he's got to do more than let his pops run his mouth while fighting lower tier opponents. Right now, he's not worth anything, as Bud says. He's got nothing and nobody on his resume. Bud had already been undisputed at 140 along with his previous world titles when he was in Boots' spot. If Bud beats him, you'll just say he was too green, and point to his terrible resume. Bud was already willing to fight him when Spence wouldn't, and they turned it down. For Showtime, which isn't even in the boxing business any more. If you think he's actually the goods, you should be right here with me wanting him to PROVE IT.

The facts are Spence had 3 WW belts, and fought on the same network Boots was under contract with! The IBF admitted they didn’t do the right thing, and so yes, I believe Bozy! Showing up August 3rd means nothing at all. Bud used to show up at PBC events, but he still signed an extension with TR! Did he get Pacquiao? Nope! Cotto left, did he get Floyd? Yup! Mikey left, did he get Spence? Yup! Did Pacquiao go to PBC? Yup! Did Pacquiao get Thurman? Yup! He would’ve got Spence too, if not for injury!

How long was Showtime in the Boxing business? How long was BLK Prime in the business? However you think BLK Prime sent a contract? GTFOH! Boots has a title, 27 years old, with an insane KO rate! However I guess Madrimov is a better opponent? How many fights does Madrimov have? Who did he beat? Never mind, this conversation is useless! Good to luck to Bud, and I hope Canelo ducks Benavidez, to fight Bud, and I hope Bud wins!

[Rayzah]

A whole forum full of Canelo haters pissing on the Charlo fight because he was " too small ". Now someone who never fought above 147, came from 135, and is 3 inches shorter than Charlo is a reasonable matchup?

No one wants to see this ****. And Canelo probably won't take it anyway.

This is all Bud's way of staying relevant while being inactive and doing what he's done his whole career. Fight some undefeated fighter we don't know about and wait for a big payday. Can't forget the occasional leftovers he cleans up too.

His whole run at 147 was literally fighting damaged goods and letting everyone else fight each other. He's going to do the same at 154. Beat this no name Russian and claim he was some difficult fight. Then claim he's the greatest boxer ever

100!!

[garfios]

The joke here is some insist calling the ginger a fraud and whatnot but TC refers to him as a real legacy fighter, real recognize real I guess.

He is a fraud, there's no boxer so carefully matched through out his career as ginger. And now the open duck with benavidez and Morrell Jr. The Crawford situation is a little bit different but it is getting there too. He already beat his boogeyman in spence and now he needs to decide facing Ennis or vacate 147. I don't care if he's after the money or he's old, fight or vacate.

[Bronx2245]

In every interview Eddie Hearn and Ennis say they'll unify 147lb and then fight Terrence Crawford. Sounds good but if you do the math its not happening. So what is happening?

Eddie simply doesn't want to pay Jaron's opponents and other than clout chasing, Eddie has no plan to promote Jaron Ennis at 147, or 154 or any other weight class. Eddie has Ennis convinced he has some grand plan but if calling out one fighter moving up is all Eddie has, Jaron will go down as the worst promoted fighter and waste of talent in history.

People say follow the money because it's always about money and Eddie doesn't want to spend HIS money on Ennis.

Now I will give you props on this post! This Boots’ 3rd promoter, 4th if you count Cameron Dunkin’s Wife, after he died! Boots knew in advance, that 147 was weak, and all the Top Fighters at 154 are with PBC! Yet, he signs with Eddie Hearn! Somehow Eddie convinced Boots that Undisputed in a weak division is better than fighting Mutazliev for IBF, or fighting Tszyu in an elimination? This sounds eerily familiar to me!

[Bro. Steve]

This is merely a money fight. Nothing wrong with that, I guess. But Crawford has virtually zero chance of knocking out Alvarez. GGG caught Alvarez multiple times with clean, hard shots, and I don’t think Canelo ever even wobbled. Crawford is nowhere near the puncher GGG was.

On the flip side, could Canelo flip the lights out on Bud? Maybe. If he catches him like he caught Saunders. My feeling is that Canelo is simply too big for Crawford, and Canelo can take a punch as well as anyone in the fight business, which means Bud won’t be able to prevent a stalk-‘n-smash if Alvarez chooses to fight that way. If the fight turns into that, we could see Bud down and out for the first time ever.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Judah, Khan, Matthysse are WAY better than Molina, Diaz, Postol, and Indongo…PERIOD!

I don’t want to sound like a Crawford hater, but fans like you make it hard? When all the Top WWs were at PBC, who signed an extension with TR, then claims PBC froze him out? If PBC was the one who froze him out, why the lawsuit against Arum? Signing the extension was ******, just like telling Pacquiao he had to come to 140! I like Bud, but he made plenty of mistakes!

Boots will have to make his own path, and I hope doesn’t make the same mistakes as Bud, but I’m worried! Pursuing Undisputed in a weak division is dumb! Signing with MatchRoom when they have no talent at 147 and 154, is also Crawford-like ******! Maybe Hearn can do what Bob didn’t do?

Matthysse is way better than Postol despite Postol outboxing and stopping him? GTFOH man.

Crawford takes some of the blame for sure, but none of those guys wanted to fight Bud aside from maybe Shawn Porter.

The point remains the same anyway, Bud had already proved himself, Boots hasn’t. Your comparison to Crawford-Spence was ludicrous.

[crimsonfalcon07]

The facts are Spence had 3 WW belts, and fought on the same network Boots was under contract with! The IBF admitted they didn’t do the right thing, and so yes, I believe Bozy! Showing up August 3rd means nothing at all. Bud used to show up at PBC events, but he still signed an extension with TR! Did he get Pacquiao? Nope! Cotto left, did he get Floyd? Yup! Mikey left, did he get Spence? Yup! Did Pacquiao go to PBC? Yup! Did Pacquiao get Thurman? Yup! He would’ve got Spence too, if not for injury!

How long was Showtime in the Boxing business? How long was BLK Prime in the business? However you think BLK Prime sent a contract? GTFOH! Boots has a title, 27 years old, with an insane KO rate! However I guess Madrimov is a better opponent? How many fights does Madrimov have? Who did he beat? Never mind, this conversation is useless! Good to luck to Bud, and I hope Canelo ducks Benavidez, to fight Bud, and I hope Bud wins!

Here's some things we can agree on:

IBF SHOULD have ordered Spence to fight Boots years ago.

Bud should have left Top Rank instead of extending.

I hope Bud does beat Canelo if that fight happens.

Now Boots has signed with Hearn rather than going where the fights were. But that's not an issue, and Boots hasn't done anything wrong?

Madrimov has a belt at 154, so he represents better options, since Charlo went AWOL and vacated all his belts, Tszyu lost, Fundora is ducking to fight Spence, and Bud can likely force a WBO unification whenever he wants as WBO super champ at 147. If he wins vs Madrimov it makes him a 4 division champ, sets him up to fight for 3 division undisputed, and potentially makes a Canelo fight look more realistic. If he fights Ennis, he gets back the belt he already won that was taken from him out of the ring, and beats a guy who has never won a world title in the ring, and whose only titlist name on the resume is a faded Lipinets, who won a vacant title at 140 vs Akihiro Kondo, then promptly lost it to a guy who lost to both Spence AND Sandor Martin. It's wild you don't understand why Madrimov is the better fight for Bud's resume.

It's funny you believe Bozy about some things, but not when he literally admits on camera that they got an offer and turned it down. Holy double standards, Batman.

[Bronx2245]

Matthysse is way better than Postol despite Postol outboxing and stopping him? GTFOH man.

Crawford takes some of the blame for sure, but none of those guys wanted to fight Bud aside from maybe Shawn Porter.

The point remains the same anyway, Bud had already proved himself, Boots hasn’t. Your comparison to Crawford-Spence was ludicrous.

So the fact that Postol beat Matthysse 2 years after DSG is irrelevant? Beating Jeff Horn, Benavidez, Khan, Brook, and Porter (again after Spence beat him) was proving himself? All Bud had to do was not sign the extension, and go where the best were fighting at! He still wound having to do it anyway, and glad he had done it too! Boots was chasing the same man Bud was chasing, in the same division, under the same sanctioning body, on the same network! IBF publicly admitted they f-d up! Bud beat the Boogeyman, and the IBF ordered Bud to fight Boots, and Bud denied Boots of the opportunity! It’s all Boots’ fault! DAMN!