Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Falls Below Anthony Joshua In Rankings Following Loss To Oleksandr Usyk

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

I still want to see it. Fury neither has the power nor the conditioning to beat this current form AJ. I question if Fury ever would’ve beaten him.

The AJ that fights with confidence and comes forward looking to knock your head off would beat Fury , the AJ that tries to box would get outworked. It looks like the confident A.J. is back , I certainly hope so, that AJ can beat anyone in the division on any given night. I wonder if that is the AJ that shows up against Big Doobie , if not , he's in trouble.

[Willow The Wisp]

Yet more deflection from an absolute joke of a so-called “journalist/historian”. You can’t explain your pure hypocrisy when talking about Wilder’s age, you won’t address whether Wilder was lying or not in that Twitter post saying he was offered more money to fight AJ than Fury, and you sure as hell can’t address why Wilder was “aged out” by the time of the Fury trilogy, but still looked a million dollars knocking out Helenius.

AJ is world-class but I wouldn’t yet call him great - I think he needs more defining victories to make that argument. An argument that can never be made for Wilder who has been repeatedly found out when stepping up, and can only hang his hat on 2 victories against a 40 year old fighter with high blood pressure, in 40+ fights..imagine that.

Anyway I’ll leave it there because you’ve proven beyond reasonable doubt that you’re devoid of common sense and lack the ability to answer basic questions when pertaining to Wilder. Have a nice day.

You don't know your stuff. Are you like 17?

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

For starters I picked Usyk to win. Many times I've said Fury was avoiding AJ and Usyk and that Furys belt should be stripped. That said, Fury has all the tools to beat Usyk but he may not have the discipline.

And yes, if there is a rematch Fury will be the favorite with a better than average chance to win.

Fury might be your favorite to win the rematch , but if he comes out as the betting favorite, I'll cashapp you $20.

[TheOneAboveAll]

The MMA guy is best not mentioned in boxing circles and his fights vs Fury and Joshua shouldnt be counted against their records.

Take that away and Joshy has a record in his last 3 fights of an overmatched sparring partner, a late replacement fall guy and a shot journeyman.

The guy has fought 1 exhibition round in the last year...Go the WBC!!!

Lol.

So, get rid of their most recent common opponent who they fought 6 months apart to erase an embarrassment for Fury and a showcase KO victory for AJ? Then let's step back and take look?

[TheOneAboveAll]

The AJ that fights with confidence and comes forward looking to knock your head off would beat Fury , the AJ that tries to box would get outworked. It looks like the confident A.J. is back , I certainly hope so, that AJ can beat anyone in the division on any given night. I wonder if that is the AJ that shows up against Big Doobie , if not , he's in trouble.

I think AJ has matured after his losses to Usyk and (with Ben Davidson's help) now understands how to relax and fight to his natural strengths and attributes. AJ is a good offensive boxer who matches up very well physically with Fury. I don't think Fury ever takes that fight, but if he does, AJ finishes him worse than he did Ngannou.

[pollywog]

So, get rid of their most recent common opponent who they fought 6 months apart to erase an embarrassment for Fury and a showcase KO victory for AJ? Then let's step back and take look?

So its a case of who looked better in losing to Usyk ?

Can you imagine the hype if Joshua had actually grown a pair and fought Wilder and Zhang in succession ?

For all the confidence AJ supposedly has in saying he'll fight anyone anywhere anytime, he hasn't called anyone out or given Turki his choice on who he'd like to fight yet.

Dude is still hiding behind Hearn's skirt.

[The D3vil]

Makes ZERO sense.

Fury arguably won the fight, and lost via razor-thin decision, while AJ got his ass beat twice by Usyk & Andy Ruiz.

[TheOneAboveAll]

Makes ZERO sense.

Fury arguably won the fight, and lost via razor-thin decision, while AJ got his ass beat twice by Usyk & Andy Ruiz.

What makes zero sense is you believing that Fury arguably won that fight. Fury won no more than three rounds. If you believe differently, please state the rounds that you believe he won outside of rounds 4-6.
This was not a close fight. Not even sort of close. Fury got outboxed for nine rounds and got beat around the ring nearly KO’d before being saved by the referee. AJ was merely outboxed twice.

[Boro]

I still want to see it. Fury neither has the power nor the conditioning to beat this current form AJ. I question if Fury ever would’ve beaten him.

So why do you want to see it, whats the point in seeing a fight that's a forgone conclusion in your head?

And what exactly is AJs "current form" the one with Davison? aka beating the MMA fighter and the 100s of rounds sparring partner and twice beaten in the amateurs Wallin?

Or are we talking about him beating Franklin coming off his loss to Whyte (contentious but still) or Helenius who he looked awful against until he landed one clean punch, which is expected against the chinless wonder that is Helenius.

The reality is they've both been fighting nothing but cans since Wlad and they've both lost to their best opponent since the aforementioned.

[TheOneAboveAll]

So why do you want to see it, whats the point in seeing a fight that's a forgone conclusion in your head?

And what exactly is AJs "current form" the one with Davison? aka beating the MMA fighter and the 100s of rounds sparring partner and twice beaten in the amateurs Wallin?

Or are we talking about him beating Franklin coming off his loss to Whyte (contentious but still) or Helenius who he looked awful against until he landed one clean punch, which is expected against the chinless wonder that is Helenius.

The reality is they've both been fighting nothing but cans since Wlad and they've both lost to their best opponent since the aforementioned.

I want to watch Fury get beat up and properly sparked this time so that all of these Fury excuse makers will stop pretending this guy was ever anything close to an ATG.