Was Floyd Mayweather Jr. clean (PEDs'free) during his era?

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  • daggum
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    #71
    Originally posted by billeau2

    Floyd had no reason to fight Margarito. ****** fight to take. Then you talking about rematches, so guys he already beat. You really think that is such a murderous role of fighters?

    Paul Williams is the one exception I will grant you that would have been a fight to take if a fighter wanted to continue. But again, it doesn't mean he had to take that fight or that he couldn't find another opponent.

    Your best evidence is two fighters he beat and a fighter that was a career shortening fight with no benefit... Any elite boxer puncher would handle Margarito and this has been proven subsequently. Floyd was smart not to take that fight. Floyd could have easily avoided williams. He did! They never stopped him from fighting.
    margarito was #1 for 3 years. no reason? so silly to even type that. another reason to fight marg?


    Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

    so he turned down the best guy and he turned down more money. money mayweather indeed! then he fought zab coming off a loss to a bum. there were no reasons to fight sharmba or zab for less money, and marg and floyd were both with top rank. easy easy fight to make. he just did not want it. instead he waited for a bum like baldomir to become champ and he cherry picked him(for less money too). even after margarito lost to williams, he came back and became #1 again so floyd could have redeemed himself by finally taking the fight...nope.

    so sad to see people defend cowardice. anyone would have beaten him! sure sure cept they didnt. when a guy loses "see i knew he wasnt good" same old same old. floyd lost to castillo but margarito didnt even have a chance? absurd. it doenst matter who would have won, what matters is floyd didnt want it against the best guys of his era: marg, cotto, and pac. thats why his resume is baldomir, zab, ortiz, guerrero, berto, etc...its been proven that floyd was scared of marg. thats the only thing that has been proven
    Last edited by daggum; 06-13-2024, 11:54 AM.

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    • billeau2
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      #72
      Originally posted by daggum

      margarito was #1 for 3 years. no reason? so silly to even type that. another reason to fight marg?


      Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

      so he turned down the best guy and he turned down more money. money mayweather indeed! then he fought zab coming off a loss to a bum. there were no reasons to fight sharmba or zab for less money, and marg and floyd were both with top rank. easy easy fight to make. he just did not want it. instead he waited for a bum like baldomir to become champ and he cherry picked him(for less money too). even after margarito lost to williams, he came back and became #1 again so floyd could have redeemed himself by finally taking the fight...nope.

      so sad to see people defend cowardice. anyone would have beaten him! sure sure cept they didnt. when a guy loses "see i knew he wasnt good" same old same old. floyd lost to castillo but margarito didnt even have a chance? absurd. it doenst matter who would have won, what matters is floyd didnt want it against the best guys of his era: marg, cotto, and pac. thats why his resume is baldomir, zab, ortiz, guerrero, berto, etc...its been proven that floyd was scared of marg. thats the only thing that has been proven
      Dude just stop it You can make an any fighter look great and championships with all the alphabet soup these days, so what? Bronner was what a three division champ? Who did margarito beat? He beat workman like fighters, I cannot even remember their names. Zab was faulty but immeasurably a better fight than Margarito.

      I am not defending Floyd... Not a fan in the respect that he did not challenge himself BUT don't p i s s on my leg and tell me it is raining... Paul Williams? YES! Margarito? Get the fck out of here.... got his a s s handed to him in a fair fight with any elite fighter he fought. He was a bruiser, and nobody would have cared if Floyd beat him.

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      • uppercut510
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        #73
        on paper yes but on boxing threads no

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #74
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          For some I think your right, there is no black and white in these kinds of things it depends on the level of athlete , the guys natural abilities etc and what is the event because in fighting lots of peds make them run hot, thats why I like to compare this stuff with animals as there is no placebo effect at all, zero, its a more accurate model, to say how its working in boxing you got to actually box, gains made doing weights and other sports etc are not the same as a 12 round championship fight at weight because of the endurance and taking shots.

          Another angle could be IF everybody is using illegal Peds which is the consensus in here, then it must mean loads of guys are beating testing like 95% and, and it also would mean that 50% of guys on these Peds are losing, I dont like throwing blankets over things, ALL is a dangerous word.
          You are right for sure.

          PEDs won’t necessarily make you a better fighter, it will just enhance your athletic ability more than that specific person is capable of naturally.

          If their genetics are very weak, someone clean with great genetics could still be stronger/faster etc than that person.

          There are a million components. Fighting is very complex.

          PEDs will enhance the specific persons athletic ability drastically, that’s a fact but like you correctly said, depending on the level of athlete.

          Where it becomes dangerous is when an genetically and athletically gifted fighter then takes PED’s, like for arguments sake and hypothetically speaking is people like Mayweather, Pacquaio etc, one in a million freaks of nature were also assisted, then it’s a big issue.

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          • TheProudLunatic
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            #75
            "NSAC chairman Bob Bennett slammed USADA's handling of the TUE, saying that only the commission was authorized to grant it, but emphasized that Mayweather never has failed a commission drug test and that the commission has no problem with the fighter.
            Sep 10, 2015"

            Floyd Mayweather, USADA say no drug-testing rules broken with IV before Manny Pacquiao fight
            https://www.mlive.com/mayweather/201...:~:text=NSAC%2 0chairman%20Bob%20Bennett%20slammed,no%20problem%2 0with%20the%20fighter.

            Another link worth attention ....
            List of deaths due to injuries sustained in boxing


            No druggies sent these poor souls to the afterlife.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #76
              Originally posted by djtmal
              Thats like asking if Iron Dan and Big Dunn are Floyd Boys.

              You should already know the answer to that one.
              I’m literally in THIS THREAD saying I don’t think he’s clean you dribbling retard.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #77
                Originally posted by TheProudLunatic
                "NSAC chairman Bob Bennett slammed USADA's handling of the TUE, saying that only the commission was authorized to grant it, but emphasized that Mayweather never has failed a commission drug test and that the commission has no problem with the fighter.
                Sep 10, 2015"

                Floyd Mayweather, USADA say no drug-testing rules broken with IV before Manny Pacquiao fight
                https://www.mlive.com/mayweather/201...:~:text=NSAC%2 0chairman%20Bob%20Bennett%20slammed,no%20problem%2 0with%20the%20fighter.

                Another link worth attention ....
                List of deaths due to injuries sustained in boxing


                No druggies sent these poor souls to the afterlife.

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                Just a quick question, did any fighters with tampered or loaded gloves send anyone to the afterlife?

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                • Lance98
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Teetotaler83

                  Lmfao denial. You babies in denial
                  Lay off the copium clown. Floyd is a proven ATG that no one can beat at that time. Stay mad.

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                  • TheProudLunatic
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Just a quick question, did any fighters with tampered or loaded gloves send anyone to the afterlife?
                    Quick answer
                    I need links and pics

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                    • TheProudLunatic
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by djtmal
                      Thats like asking if Iron Dan and Big Dunn are Floyd Boys.

                      You should already know the answer to that one.
                      You completely ducked your boi's comeback match thread !!!!!

                      A 3rd'er vs who ?!?!?!

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