A Farewell tribute to America's best heavyweight of the current era.

[Pac=Duran]

X2 Ortiz + x3 Fury is = anything anyone else did within the era. The rest, was simply compliance with the WBC ratings.

He lost to Fury 3 times though.

And let's not be revisionist, he only ever stepped up to face a top Heavyweight bbecause Fury was still in terrible shape following his 3 year drug and burger binge


Up to that point Beyonce's list of ducks is a whoswho of heavyweight. He wouldnt even fight Dillian Whyte lmao

[Pac=Duran]

A common theme I find is posters often become delusional rather than just accepting their opinion was wrong.

Yes they will cry to the cows come home about how AJ was the one thay ducked Wilder etc and how Haney isn't a weight bully fraud.

You just need to accept the facts. I accepted long ago that Marquez just had Pacs number, but these Americans are so tribalist. You will almost never see them admit they were wrong, theyll.just avoid and ignore when they know they were totally incorrect about something.

[Haka]

John McDermott gave a better account vs Fury.

The scoring in the first fight with Fury was terrible. A draw?

Besides I think Wallin gave a better account vs Fury.

Sure but Wilder dropped him multiple times and Fury was in much danger of being stopped. Technically Wallin fought better sure but Fury was never in real trouble of losing, Wallin made it look close at times but was way to much behind already. In terms of winning those fights you can argue that Wilder was closest to. But how good is Fury really, for example Fury would never have taken the Zhang fight, never bothered fighting hungry contenders. Fury is much hype, inflated air.

[billeau2]

Anybody who thinks that Deontay Wilder wasn't a great fighter doesn't know anything about fighting.

Who's resume can't be picked apart in boxing? Some fans are critical and tune in to see fighters take a beating, while others come to witness the very best of human courage and endeavor.

Not hard to tell who's who.

How much of Wilder's inability to unleash his bombs is to do with being shot, gunshy or high net worth, we can't know with certainty.

But at Wilder's current age, Dempsey was 6 years retired, Louis was a year past being dumped out of the ring by Marciano, Ali was taking a pounding from Trevor Berbick, Bowe was 9 years past taking back to back beatings administered by Golota, Tyson was getting hammered by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride, and Holyfield, Lewis and Klitschko had all suffered a load of far worse KO'S to far worse opponents than anyone that Wilder ever lost to.

So I don't understand any talk about Bridgerweight or having another go.
Whatever great things Wilder was born to do in the ring, he's done em'.

Well sometimes there is just an opportunity. I mean a way to fight a bit longer with fewer reprecussions. But I am always an advocate for a fighter calling it a career! Wilder had a pristine run with little damage until the Fury trilogy, son I cannot in good faith tell you he has less miles for a fighter his age lol. Fury and Zhang nullified that one! I do think he could win a lot of fights the same way he started his run at Bridgeweight. But he has everything he needs and had a great run for sure.

[billeau2]

Probably made to order for the Prime Wilder. Klitschko was better at EVERYTHING than even the Best Wilder.

Wouldn't have saved him though. Ross Purity showed how.

So did Sanders! Sanders actually had an underestimated punch... But it was no where on the order of Wilder's shots.

[TMLT87]

We will never know if he really was the best American HW of his era considering he didnt fight any of the others.

[SUBZER0ED]

He lost to Fury 3 times though.

And let's not be revisionist, he only ever stepped up to face a top Heavyweight bbecause Fury was still in terrible shape following his 3 year drug and burger binge


Up to that point Beyonce's list of ducks is a whoswho of heavyweight. He wouldnt even fight Dillian Whyte lmao

True! Fury 1 was a cherry pick gone wrong, and Ortiz was simply too old.

[Willow The Wisp]

Anyone who thinks he’s really not gonna fight again is forgetting that this is boxing

Sadly, you're probably right.
When Mike Tyson was his age he was getting blitzed by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride.

Still......he could earn more for one last curtin call losing to Jared Anderson than all but a dozen of the mop bucket critics here will earn in their lifetimes.

[paul77]

I was one of if not the first Wilder supporter on NSB. I heard him on a podcast not long after we went pro telling his story.

People would mock the soft touches he was put in against in his first 20 fights - people said he was a clown compared to Rakhim Chakhkiev, the Gold Medalist, who got a much faster start to his career.

First it was "Kelvin Price will expose him"

Then it was "Liakhovich by KO"

At first people said Stiverne would expose Wilder as well, but as the fight drew close that crowd went silent.

Wilder was the WBC heavyweight champion for years and he accomplished a hell of a lot more than every heavyweight not named Joshua or Fury in his era.

He is shot to pieces but he had a damn good run.

Leaving DiBella and turning down the Joshua fight deal turned out to be a terrible idea, but really his downfall began when he left Golden Boy. Haymon was great for many fighters, but Wilder is one fighter who was worse off from working with him.

[Willow The Wisp]

Well sometimes there is just an opportunity. I mean a way to fight a bit longer with fewer reprecussions. But I am always an advocate for a fighter calling it a career! Wilder had a pristine run with little damage until the Fury trilogy, son I cannot in good faith tell you he has less miles for a fighter his age lol. Fury and Zhang nullified that one! I do think he could win a lot of fights the same way he started his run at Bridgeweight. But he has everything he needs and had a great run for sure.

Experiences with F.I.S.T., the IBHOF, the ABC Retired Fighter Charitable Fund, Alex Ramos' Retired Boxers Foundation and looking after Greg Page and others has left a deep impression on this poster.
This is the ULTIMATE sport and there's no tapping out. This is the sport that is NOT A GAME.
So I say, if a champion has passed the 50 million mark in earnings, which Deontay has; the 40 years AFTER retirement must become the priority.

The mop bucket critics up in the cheap seats here don't get that, but I do.